It will all depend on, who you are receiving the money from and what your activity is, the law is very︀ specific for certain circumstances so you have to be careful and very specific about your︁ circumstances.
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Thanks for the reply. Just for clarification, will this election definitely require issuing a tax number for the company and producing accounting in Malta?
I'm still not sure I understand. Isn't this basically allowing the taxpayer to actively create a hybrid mismatch?
Also, how does this make sense? Say I set incorporate a company in some 0% tax country like the︀ BVI or the Seychelles. The company is a corporation (opaque), but I'm the sole shareholder︁ and director. Does that mean that Malta will allow me not to pay tax, even︂ though I run everything from Malta? Doesn't the company's income arise in Malta?!
Yes, if the company's income did︅ not arise in Malta. But how could it arise outside of Malta when everything happens︆ in Malta and the company is only incorporated elsewhere?
This part at least makes sense,︉ even though many other countries wouldn't allow this,
Also, how does this make sense? Say I set incorporate a company in some 0% tax country like the︀ BVI or the Seychelles. The company is a corporation (opaque), but I'm the sole shareholder︁ and director. Does that mean that Malta will allow me not to pay tax, even︂ though I run everything from Malta? Doesn't the company's income arise in Malta?!
Yes, if the company's income did︅ not arise in Malta. But how could it arise outside of Malta when everything happens︆ in Malta and the company is only incorporated elsewhere?
This part at least makes sense,︉ even though many other countries wouldn't allow this,
Welcome to Malta. Please refer to the CFR website on how company︊ incorporated outside malta is treated amd the concept of non domicile company. Also, Malta treats︋ CAPITAL differently and has various use cases.
So at this point, assuming the owner is a non-dom Maltese resident, why not register the US LLC as opaque, request a tax number and pay 35% and then request a refund of 6/7? Or pay directly 5% if the US LLC is owned by a Maltese holding?
It seems like a fairly logical choice. Where is the downside? With no customers in EU it really seems like the best.
I mean... it's about 5%. Where can you find a better 100% legal solution today?
It seems like a fairly logical choice. Where is the downside? With no customers in EU it really seems like the best.
I mean... it's about 5%. Where can you find a better 100% legal solution today?
Where is the source for this? I spoke to a lawyer and he said the income would have to be linked to an asset outside Malta - otherwise it would be seen as Malta-sourced.
You haven't been paying attention. We're discussing 0% tax here.
You can do that with a Maltese company without any risk. Doesn't make sense to set up something exotic only to pay the same tax as everyone with a standard setup.
You can do that with a Maltese company without any risk. Doesn't make sense to set up something exotic only to pay the same tax as everyone with a standard setup.
Oh ok, I want to see who will have to explain at the first audit that the company is resident but not domiciled, violating all kinds of EU anti-abuse rules.
The reasons can be multiple based on the business (better regulations for example)... but also the privacy issue, a US LLC with registered agent︀ has definitely much more privacy than a Maltese LTD (everything public, balance sheets, directors, shareholders,︁ personal addresses etc.. etc..) and also UBO for those who have "specific interest" (not only︂ authorities)
Anyway, thanks for the clarification.
The reasons can be multiple based on the business (better regulations for example)... but also the privacy issue, a US LLC with registered agent︀ has definitely much more privacy than a Maltese LTD (everything public, balance sheets, directors, shareholders,︁ personal addresses etc.. etc..) and also UBO for those who have "specific interest" (not only︂ authorities)
Anyway, thanks for the clarification.
That's my point exactly: If you register a Maltese company, you pay 5% tax (minimum) on all income of the company (except for strictly defined "foreign income"), plus you have to pay for accounting etc.
But if you set up a US LLC and register it as opaque (your choice even!), then you don't need accounting and you pay 0% tax? So Malta basically let's you choose "Hey, do you︀ want to pay tax on this company, or would you want it to be a︁ hybrid mismatch, so you don't pay tax? Ok cool."
It just sounds too good to︂ be true for me, and I also don't see how this would be in Malta's︃ interest.
Even if Malta treats the US LLC as opaque, if you're the only person︄ behind the company and you live in Malta, they should say there is a PE︅ in Malta, and then they should tax the PE like a branch (35% with refund).︆ This is what would make sense, and this is also what a Maltese lawyer told︇ me. He also said it could be different if the company has income from an︈ asset outside of Malta, like royalty income etc. - then such income may indeed not︉ be taxed in Malta - but it would be the same with a Maltese company.︊
Anyway, I trust that @A1988 has done his research, and a lot of people seem︋ to be running such setups, so it seems like this does indeed work in practice.︌
Even though it reminds me of Cyprus residents with their HK and Seychelles offshore companies,︍ living off "dividends"... Since apparently Cyprus doesn't enforce PE rules either.
Then again, I have︎ heard that there are like 3 tax inspectors for the whole country, so I'm not️ quite sure if this is intended by Cyprus or if they just lack the resources to enforce the law. Or maybe the lack of resources is intentional...
Fair point, but I would guess, if you really want to do it by the book, you would have to register a Maltese branch of the US LLC, and then you would have︀ to make this information public, just like for a Maltese company.
But if you set up a US LLC and register it as opaque (your choice even!), then you don't need accounting and you pay 0% tax? So Malta basically let's you choose "Hey, do you︀ want to pay tax on this company, or would you want it to be a︁ hybrid mismatch, so you don't pay tax? Ok cool."
It just sounds too good to︂ be true for me, and I also don't see how this would be in Malta's︃ interest.
Even if Malta treats the US LLC as opaque, if you're the only person︄ behind the company and you live in Malta, they should say there is a PE︅ in Malta, and then they should tax the PE like a branch (35% with refund).︆ This is what would make sense, and this is also what a Maltese lawyer told︇ me. He also said it could be different if the company has income from an︈ asset outside of Malta, like royalty income etc. - then such income may indeed not︉ be taxed in Malta - but it would be the same with a Maltese company.︊
Anyway, I trust that @A1988 has done his research, and a lot of people seem︋ to be running such setups, so it seems like this does indeed work in practice.︌
Even though it reminds me of Cyprus residents with their HK and Seychelles offshore companies,︍ living off "dividends"... Since apparently Cyprus doesn't enforce PE rules either.
Then again, I have︎ heard that there are like 3 tax inspectors for the whole country, so I'm not️ quite sure if this is intended by Cyprus or if they just lack the resources to enforce the law. Or maybe the lack of resources is intentional...
Fair point, but I would guess, if you really want to do it by the book, you would have to register a Maltese branch of the US LLC, and then you would have︀ to make this information public, just like for a Maltese company.
Well, I do not know what the activity of the US llc would be, but definitely if you are invoicing and providing service in the US or your country of residency then its a big headache and will not work.
My point is, if you are a non dom in malta and you establish a non domicile company in malta then you are taxed︀ on the income you remit to malta. Hence, in theory a US LLC would work︁ in Malta if the election is made to be treated as OPAQUE. Now, the further︂ structuring part comes in to play here, I dont know what the business is and︃ where the clients are served and invoices issued, hence it needs to be looked further︄ in depth to understand and structure it. Its not a one structure fit all or︅ US LLC with maltese non dom residency would work for everyone. Hope it makes sense.︆
Please find the article on Non Dom Company here on CFR website (Maltese Tax Agency)︇ -
https://cfr.gov.mt/en/inlandrevenue/corporatetax/Pages/Corporate-Tax.aspx
Some more reference articles below
https://www.ccmalta.com/publications/malta-taxation-of-resident-non-doms-entities
https://corriericilia.com/publications/resident-non-domiciled-companies
https://imexmalta.com/Non-Domiciled Companies in Malta.php
My point is, if you are a non dom in malta and you establish a non domicile company in malta then you are taxed︀ on the income you remit to malta. Hence, in theory a US LLC would work︁ in Malta if the election is made to be treated as OPAQUE. Now, the further︂ structuring part comes in to play here, I dont know what the business is and︃ where the clients are served and invoices issued, hence it needs to be looked further︄ in depth to understand and structure it. Its not a one structure fit all or︅ US LLC with maltese non dom residency would work for everyone. Hope it makes sense.︆
Please find the article on Non Dom Company here on CFR website (Maltese Tax Agency)︇ -
https://cfr.gov.mt/en/inlandrevenue/corporatetax/Pages/Corporate-Tax.aspx
Some more reference articles below
https://www.ccmalta.com/publications/malta-taxation-of-resident-non-doms-entities
https://corriericilia.com/publications/resident-non-domiciled-companies
https://imexmalta.com/Non-Domiciled Companies in Malta.php
What I don't understand is, if the company is resident in Malta, why doesn't Malta at least want a cut? That doesn't make sense to me.
I think that Cyprus has much stricter PE rules than Malta
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/cyprus/corporate/corporate-residence
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/malta/corporate/corporate-residence
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/cyprus/corporate/corporate-residence
https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/malta/corporate/corporate-residence
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