Cetme308win said:
What about surespot? You don't need to identify your phone number
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reesek said:
telegram is also open source guys
it is as safe as any cloud storage, true
but there are private chats that go p2p only
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U still think so? 😀keggo said:
Signal messenger (open source)
Another option would be an encro phone but this only works if your business partners have encro phones as well. An encro phone costs around 1500€ for 6 months.
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Now owned by AWS, hard to find something that isn't controlled by Big Tech
Hrtc said:
"Session" seems to be a decent alternative, end to end encryption and no phone number.
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Signal lately hosts its server with Amazon so I would be careful.reallyawesome1111 said:
Signal and Signal forks like Session are the best. Signal has proven cryptography and sealed sender means that they couldn't get metadata even if they wanted to. Signal also has an open source server and client. Wickr only has open sourced their cryptography library and Threema only has open sourced their client. The best is XMPP with OMEMO but that's pretty difficult for normal people to set up and it doesn't work as good on mobile. Just register Signal using a burner phone or Account activations via SMS | Receive SMS online | Smspva or a similar phone verification service.
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So Jami, Tox and Briar should be the best ones? Which of the 3 is the bestest?santogrial said:
Session doesn't route attachments, but stores them on the server.
Sessions is a comp from Australia, and Aus has the most aggressive approach on e2e, so I think its a decent alternative, but not the best.
If I had to choose I would go for an app without cental server. I can assure you any app that has a server no matter how encrypted can be cracked and read by authorities if persistent enough. And this happened recently. Image below explains a lot for confused users.
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For extreme privacy i would go with Briar, limited user options, but for the sake of anonymity and privacy. Conversations is more user friendly.JohnnyDoe said:
So Jami, Tox and Briar should be the best ones? Which of the 3 is the bestest?
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JamiJohnnyDoe said:
So Jami, Tox and Briar should be the best ones? Which of the 3 is the bestest?
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U talking about briar or cryptviser in the desc? Since u described briar and you wrote cryptviser lot better 😀369 said:
crypviser way better than briar
no middle men attack possible which briar is not capable to provide also p2p and no centralized server .
There is even a message bomb feature which destroyes messages from both devices after x time
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What you list there may be the case for all anonymous and secure messengers ?!wellington said:
Its full of scams, hucksters, terrorists, child P**N... etc... I'd hazard it's pretty 'secure/safe' - but is tied to a mobile number (physical or digital).
Somewhere there will be data-linkage etc.
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