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You talk a lot about democracy and staff.
Where is the democracy in ukraine ?‌
No other parties allowed
Restricted TV stations and Media
Majors whos opinion is diffrent to‍ nationalist are getting liquidated
political imprisement etc

what are you guys talking about?
Where is⁠ ukraine democratic ?
What about the biolabs Biden/Ukraine have ?

And the question if we⁤ should deliver weapon is a clear NO
Anyone understanding international law knows that this could⁣ be considered breach of laws and most important being seen as involvement of Nato.You want⁢ whole europe go into a war ?
You guys are simply insane or dumb and︀ nothing more.
If you want to support go yourself to the fucking front but let︁ normal people alone.
I didn't voted for Zelensky and i will never support such a︂ puppet.A comedian actor which has put in the whole government buddies from his comedian carrier︃ sponsored by kolomojski

You ......... don't even understand as longer the war will go as︄ more people from europe are going to pay for it with their wealth.
Has or︅ had ukraine a chance to win ?Not a single percent of a chance.All they did︆ is a show creating multi national blocks again and fucking over all people on the︇ world.
Thanks to that stupidity we will see not thousands of people die in ukraine︈ but MILLIONS in africa because of lack of food.
You .......... ever think about these︉ people there or are you only interrested in nationalist ukraine fuggots who have no chance.︊

As you know big︄ part of ukraine is russian.Did he ever asked about their opinion ?
Or are russians︅ living in the ukraine the slaves of non russians in ukraine ?

Did people of︆ the sorvereign regions were asked if they wanna join back to ukraine ?

You talk︇ a lot of democracy but somehow i can't see you accepting the decission of these︈ russians living in ex ukraine to be part of russia instead of ukraine which were︉ trying to murder them.
So if people who live on that land decide to go︊ with russia isn't it democratic ?
 
Ok your answers and︉ logic are actually well balanced. Don't really have anything more to say. Credit where credit︊ is due. You answered the question with good reasoning.
 
If your logic is⁠ correct, then mainland chinese people, for some strange reason, have to obtain a visa to⁤ go their own province. How's that?

And how's that the province has its own currency,⁣ army and president, and way more freedom?

And why is China so preocuppied with reuniting⁢ with Taiwan if Taiwan is already its province?

It's recognized by US only for sake︀ of maintaining relationships with China. And don't forget that US has been selling weapons to︁ that "province".
 
And no developed nation⁣ has ever said that Taiwan belongs to the PRC afaik
 
This idiocy about Nazis in Ukraine really must end. Even Putin hangs out with Nazis.‌ Unlike Zelenskyy, Putin has invited them to the Kremlin, had them serve in the Russian‍ army, and also used them as assassins.
https://www.nationalworld.com/news/world/wagner-group-russian-mercenaries-ukraine-3589837
In 2014, in Argentina, an umbrella company called "The Wagner︀ Group" was registered. That name wasn't just symbolic; their founder is an ex-Special Forces soldier︁ from Russia, who also happens to be a die-hard fan of you guessed it …︂ Hitler. Wagner was extremely popular in Germany, so much so that he was Hitler's favorite︃ and Hitler felt that they were kindred spirits. The Wagner Group is variously described as︄ a private military company, a network of mercenaries, or a de facto private army of Russian President Vladimir Putin. It has over 6,000 employees.

The Wagner Group︅ was founded by Dmitriy Valeryevich Utkin, a veteran of the First and Second Chechen︆ War. He served as lieutenant colonel and brigade commander of a unit of special forces unit of Russia's Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU), the 700th Independent Spetsnaz Detachment of the︇ 2nd Independent Brigade.

Since 2014, this ghost group has been operating in Ukraine. Beginning in︈ January 2022, flocks of Ukrainian-speaking men have arrived in Ukraine, claiming to visit friends and︉ family members. But they were not there for social reasons at all. The purpose of︊ these unmarked ghosts is to carry out the mission of assassinating Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who managed︋ to survive three assassination attempts, two of which were reportedly by The Wagner Group. The︌ man who actually gets it done has been promised a large bounty reward.

The head︍ of The Wagner Group, Dmitriy Utkin, has several n**i tattoos. As recently as 2016,︎ Utkin was photographed with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a Kremlin reception.

So, Putin himself️ actually hangs out with Nazis. The same n**i that he entertained at the Kremlin, he‌ has hired to kill a Jewish head of state of another government. The same government‍ that Putin has accused of tolerating Nazis, although it elected a Jewish president.

So, enough⁠ with the n**i stupidity. If anyone acts like a n**i, it is Putin. And unlike⁤ Zelenskyy, Putin has been photographed with a n**i soldier from his own army (a lieutenant⁣ colonel, no less) -- a n**i who served as a lieutenant colonel in the Russian⁢ army and who wears n**i tattoos. The same n**i that he hired as an assassin︀ to kill the Jewish leader of another country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group
https://theprint.in/world/what-is-w...yiv-to-assassinate-volodymyr-zelensky/851900/
 
Wagner Group is for hire for anyone all over the world.They worked already for many‌ countries including the US
It's a private owned military operation company basicly with russian special‍ forces who had no job after the downfall.

Remember 2014 when Putin claimed no russian⁠ army would support the conflict in ukraine ?
He was technically right because these were⁤ private owned armies which were hired like the wagner group which doesn't fight for any⁣ flag but for money.
 
why you laughing ?Western countries used Wagner group multiple‌ times.Seems you had no issue at that time
 
It's like saying blackwater invading a country doesn't‍ mean that the US is invading a country
 
You make no mention of why⁢ Russia has Nazis in its army (even at the lieutenant colonel and the brigade commander︀ level).

You make no mention of why Putin would invite a n**i to the Kremlin.︁

You make no mention of why Putin would take photographs with a known n**i --︂ at the Kremlin.

You make no mention of why Putin -- if he is so︃ concerned about Nazis in Ukraine and elsewhere -- would hire a n**i to assassinate a︄ Jewish president.

You discussed none of the real relevant issues. After all, this is a︅ Russian n**i who served in the Russian army and who visited Putin in the Kremlin︆ and who still works for Putin.
 
Because Taiwan is considered a "rogue" province by China 🙄.

See above answer and also does UK pressure its BOTS to use the pound...lol?⁣

Taiwan is considered a "rogue" province by China as︀ I said already....lol.

Lol...not just America recognizes it but the overwhelming majority of United Nation member︂ countries do....lol. Very few states maintain full diplomat ties with Taiwan if you don't know︃ 🙄.

P.S Keep to topic. As I said in another post start a new thread︄ if you want to start a side discussion on China. It will be interesting. But︅ here is not the best place to override discussion on the ongoing conflict.

Have a︆ good afternoon im off to the bar cig-:,.
 
I can also consider the president of Australia my "rogue" son. An he is‍ to obey me. And?

No, it doesn't. Why can that⁤ be compared to the China-Taiwan thing?

the president of Australia is my⁢ rogue son as I've said already...

USA and the majority︂ of the world don't recognize Taiwan in order to maintain relationship with China.

That doesn't︃ make Taiwan a province of China.
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/put...urope-countries-pay-rubles-ukraine-war-2022-3

Putin threatens to stop sending gas to Europe if countries don't pay Russia in‌ rubles​



An anonymous Twitter account built 60,000 followers translating Chinese propaganda about the Ukraine war‍ and is setting off an international firestorm



https://twitter.com/x/status/1509161021394460674

The Great Translation Movement Twitter account translates⁠ Chinese-language posts into English.It's attracted thousands of followers , and criticism from state media calling⁤ it a "smear campaign."The translations are fascinating for Westerners but experts say social media doesn't⁣ necessarily represent what the Chinese think.
 
Believe me, if Westerners truly understood how the Chinese think, they would crap‌ in their pants and then never spend another dollar on Chinese goods that prop up‍ that evil communist regime.

The Chinese are an alien culture with alien thinking and a⁠ deep disrespect for human life and freedom.
 
if you know china⁢ you know that these kind of messages are on a daily basis there and you︀ got chinese monitoring everything anyways even without these messages
 
There is a new clip flowing arround telegram with Arestovich (Zelenskiy advisor) that people should‌ not fear missles because it makes no sense to fire millon dollar expensive missles on‍ civilian buildings and that russia is only targeting military facilities and infrastructur.
He adds the⁠ only fear should be of misfire and if INTERCEPTED BY MISSLE DEFENCES

There you have⁤ it directly from ukraine leadership
 
Lol, you're back! Looks like⁠ you forgot to reply to a few messages here earlier...
 
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