Registering a supercar in Europe somewhere
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Andorran government website seems to be Catalan language only. There are some quite thorough websites (such as this), and I suppose the agents will be able to answer your questions. I haven't gone through the process myself, as I am still resident in the EU.
You cannot simply lease a personal car on foreign plates as they will fine you after a while, and force to register it locally. Pretty much anywhere after 1/6/12 months.
There are some loopholes around it, personal/company residence requirements and special permissions to be asked for this to work in such car-n**i countries.
Imho those countries are not worth hassle, I'd prefer to just move away to freer countries.
But I know people doing it and have no issues when stopped by police as long as everything is done right.
If you're︀ living in one of those you better ask a professional in this field.
Cause every︁ little thing MUST be done right for this to work, and can easily put you︂ into other problems if done wrong (personal tax residence).
There are some loopholes around it, personal/company residence requirements and special permissions to be asked for this to work in such car-n**i countries.
Imho those countries are not worth hassle, I'd prefer to just move away to freer countries.
But I know people doing it and have no issues when stopped by police as long as everything is done right.
If you're︀ living in one of those you better ask a professional in this field.
Cause every︁ little thing MUST be done right for this to work, and can easily put you︂ into other problems if done wrong (personal tax residence).
The whole island is so tiny you can just walk...
You can also get an electric scooter or a Fiat Panda or something and you'll be just fine 😀
I've just put a random car with price from the ads and the registration price was about 1/3 of the value of the car if not more... That's insane!
You can also get an electric scooter or a Fiat Panda or something and you'll be just fine 😀
I've just put a random car with price from the ads and the registration price was about 1/3 of the value of the car if not more... That's insane!
Be careful. A country such as the Netherlands wouldn't allow residents to LEASE from︄ foreign companies with foreign plates as the government would mis out on taxes. In NL︅ as a resident its limited to merely days where you would be able to drive︆ a car as described and only with a valid reason (replacement car for when own︇ broke down for instance).
About 10 years ago the EU closed a loophole. Before that︈ many such situations were organised via Luxembourg. I am not aware of any provider still︉ offering this.
A general thought to consider; set up a rental company and rent a︊ car from your own rental company. You then tick a lot of legal boxes that︋ cannot be used against you. Rental is preferable over leasing because of the term involved.︌ Also with renting you get lower prices the longer you rent.
The above is a︍ thought. Not sure if it would work (semi permanently) as the EU closed a major︎ loophole in that sense.
About 10 years ago the EU closed a loophole. Before that︈ many such situations were organised via Luxembourg. I am not aware of any provider still︉ offering this.
A general thought to consider; set up a rental company and rent a︊ car from your own rental company. You then tick a lot of legal boxes that︋ cannot be used against you. Rental is preferable over leasing because of the term involved.︌ Also with renting you get lower prices the longer you rent.
The above is a︍ thought. Not sure if it would work (semi permanently) as the EU closed a major︎ loophole in that sense.
Yeah it is impossible to drive foreign︅ plates in your country of residency legally, also not with leasing or renting constructions..
It is still possible with Luxembourg indeed either by some special providers or by registering your︆ car on your own Luxembourg Civil Company.
It is still possible with Luxembourg indeed either by some special providers or by registering your︆ car on your own Luxembourg Civil Company.
Luxembourg has always had some of the best tax advantages over them all. I'm curious to see where it will go with your super car and if you succeed with your plans.
My personal believing is, it won't work within the EU, either you get fined, or they will take your car.
My personal believing is, it won't work within the EU, either you get fined, or they will take your car.
Again it all depends on the country.
In the U.K. for example I have noticed cars there for years with foreign plates. 2-3+ years the same foreign car…
In Luxembourg the law for example gives you 6 months:
„As soon as you move to the Grand Duchy, your vehicle must have a brand new number plate to be able to travel the country’s roads. You have 6 months to change your plate, which can be personalised.“
So it really depends on which country in Europe/EU. Each will have more or less flexible regulations. And each Police will have more or less flexible enforcement.
In the U.K. for example I have noticed cars there for years with foreign plates. 2-3+ years the same foreign car…
In Luxembourg the law for example gives you 6 months:
„As soon as you move to the Grand Duchy, your vehicle must have a brand new number plate to be able to travel the country’s roads. You have 6 months to change your plate, which can be personalised.“
So it really depends on which country in Europe/EU. Each will have more or less flexible regulations. And each Police will have more or less flexible enforcement.
Taking your car is only temporary. Even the Dutch which are one of the strictest are in many cases not able to impound the car especially not when ownership isn’t attached to the driver.
Fining. Yes. They can and will.
I do agree with you that it’s going︀ to be difficult giving the loopholes that are closed. I also do think that there︁ are solutions. Can’t share them publicly though.
Fining. Yes. They can and will.
I do agree with you that it’s going︀ to be difficult giving the loopholes that are closed. I also do think that there︁ are solutions. Can’t share them publicly though.
In many European countries, if you're registered there, you are SIMPLY NOT allowed to drive a car on foreign plates, no matter who owns it!
You can own a car in Germany, on german plates, if you have a registered address they can send mail to, not sure if Po. Box works anymore.
You can own a car in Germany, on german plates, if you have a registered address they can send mail to, not sure if Po. Box works anymore.
The one thing I don't like with Andorran tourist plates is that they show their month and year of validity on the license plate, for everybody to see...
I've found another solution there:
https://en.platinemotors.com/immatriculation-andorre
From what I've understood, your car will be registered under the name of an Andorran company, but you will be the owner in the sense that you will have in your pocket a sale contract with your name on it, but without a date. It might be a scam?
I've found another solution there:
https://en.platinemotors.com/immatriculation-andorre
From what I've understood, your car will be registered under the name of an Andorran company, but you will be the owner in the sense that you will have in your pocket a sale contract with your name on it, but without a date. It might be a scam?
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