Purchase Uk Property Anonymously

woolyg

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Hi, Does anybody have a solution to purchase a UK property anonymously?
The funds I will be using are clean and have been sitting in a UK bank account for some time.
I am not looking to dodge the Tax liablilities. on the purchase, the property will cost about £60k
My only requirement is that neither mine or my families name are not on the property docs.
Thanks
 
Yes, there are options available but it really does require a bit more information.

The short answer is it can be done via a fiduciary or a designated person. Best to move the thread to Mentor.
 
Guys, this thread is inside the Mentor Group gold - what is the problem?

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How are you looking to purchase? By this, I mean do you have proof of your source of income?
 
My parants gave me the money 2 years ago from a life insurance policy they had, but the money was never declared for tax just went straight into my UK bank, which I guess would be problematic?
 
With respect, and I'll explain why later, are both your parents still alive?

This makes a difference between an inheritence, or a (family) gift.

Once you've confirmed that, I should be able to give you more useful information.

Ta
 
If you can confirm proof of source (ie essentially something that you have been left by your deceased parents), you should not pay any Inheritence Tax as the total is below £325,000GBP.

The link where you can confirm this officially is Inheritance Tax (warning, leads to a government website).

If you buy a property in your own name, using all or some of the case, they will perform KYC on you. If you are a UK resident, you will be asked to provide your National Insurance number.

You do have the option of then transferring the property (once mortage is paid) to an offshore company - however, beware what is known as the "envelope tax": This is where any single UK residence is worth more than £500,000GBP and owned by an offshore company. The official information is available at Annual Tax on Enveloped Dwellings

HTH
 
Yes that's the problem, I have hoping to keep my name off the property transaction, I could ask my daughter but that is not much better either.
I am about to go through a divorce which makes things very difficult, especially as my wife suspects I have money hidden.
If the funds came from an offshore bank account, I guess they would still want to know the origin of the funds?
I know in the past it would have been so much easier but now not so.
Thanks for all your advise.
 
woolyg said:
Yes that's the problem, I have hoping to keep my name off the property transaction, I could ask my daughter but that is not much better either.
I am about to go through a divorce which makes things very difficult, especially as my wife suspects I have money hidden.
If the funds came from an offshore bank account, I guess they would still want to know the origin of the funds?
I know in the past it would have been so much easier but now not so.
Thanks for all your advise.
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From what I understand, you'd have major issues pulling in money directly from an offshore bank account. There are some methods of getting the money in a UK account, but this could leave you liable for tax.

You could run into trouble putting the money into your daughter's name - as it could be viewed as a taxable gift.

Consider the following option, but please take appropriate legal advice first. This process has its risks. You will need to consider personal tax thresholds, VAT thresholds, and make sure that there is no ambiguity about what you are doing:
1) Setup an LLC in Wyoming or Delaware as the "public face" for X amount that is offshore.
2) Setup a UK Limited company - get a bank account. There are challenger banks like Starling that don't need an "in person" appointment, but most challenger banks will require some type of video recording of you saying your name, etc. I've used Starling myself, and had account setup in under 24hours.
3) Over a period of a few months, invoice from the UK Ltd to the LLC for services you are providing (for example "company management", "consultancy")
4) Get the money paid into your UK account. I don't think you will charge VAT even if you are over the threshold as the LLC will be "outside the scope of UK VAT"

Once you have the bulk/all of the money, you now have two routes to consider:
1) Buying the property in your own name? Use the "low wage, high dividend" route to take money out of the UK Ltd. You will need to check to see if you need to pay any tax
2) Buy the property in the company name? It can be difficult to obtain a UK mortage for a residential property owned by a UK Ltd. You may need to look at a residential mortage at commercial rates (can be something like 5% on top of the interest rate.

Other considerations:
1) If you are getting divorced, you may want to wait until the Decree Absolute is complete and/or until you have a Clean Break Order, to avoid complications
2) You could buy now in the UK Ltd name, and it would be difficult for your "ex" to challenge the corporate veil of the UK Ltd
3) You need to decide what to do with the LLC once the process is complete
 
Thanks very much for you indepth information, it is certainly something to consider going forward. I think I will certainly need to take legal advise as there doesnt appear to be any relatively straight forward routes that I can consider.
Thanks again
 
woolyg said:
Thanks very much for you indepth information, it is certainly something to consider going forward. I think I will certainly need to take legal advise as there doesnt appear to be any relatively straight forward routes that I can consider.
Thanks again
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Hi

If you get stuck, please IM me.
 
netixone said:
From what I understand, you'd have major issues pulling in money directly from an offshore bank account. There are some methods of getting the money in a UK account, but this could leave you liable for tax.

You could run into trouble putting the money into your daughter's name - as it could be viewed as a taxable gift.

Consider the following option, but please take appropriate legal advice first. This process has its risks. You will need to consider personal tax thresholds, VAT thresholds, and make sure that there is no ambiguity about what you are doing:
1) Setup an LLC in Wyoming or Delaware as the "public face" for X amount that is offshore.
2) Setup a UK Limited company - get a bank account. There are challenger banks like Starling that don't need an "in person" appointment, but most challenger banks will require some type of video recording of you saying your name, etc. I've used Starling myself, and had account setup in under 24hours.
3) Over a period of a few months, invoice from the UK Ltd to the LLC for services you are providing (for example "company management", "consultancy")
4) Get the money paid into your UK account. I don't think you will charge VAT even if you are over the threshold as the LLC will be "outside the scope of UK VAT"

Once you have the bulk/all of the money, you now have two routes to consider:
1) Buying the property in your own name? Use the "low wage, high dividend" route to take money out of the UK Ltd. You will need to check to see if you need to pay any tax
2) Buy the property in the company name? It can be difficult to obtain a UK mortage for a residential property owned by a UK Ltd. You may need to look at a residential mortage at commercial rates (can be something like 5% on top of the interest rate.

Other considerations:
1) If you are getting divorced, you may want to wait until the Decree Absolute is complete and/or until you have a Clean Break Order, to avoid complications
2) You could buy now in the UK Ltd name, and it would be difficult for your "ex" to challenge the corporate veil of the UK Ltd
3) You need to decide what to do with the LLC once the process is complete
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Unfortunately you will run into problems with this buddy especially if the Ex Mrs smells something fishy.

What you need to do is find a private lender who you "invest" with and then they can lend the money back to you.

You purchase the house and using their funds and he simply swaps out the funds after. Then you can use a proxy to stand in for the purchase and you rent it from them. The lender then puts in place all types of covenants to secure the building being sold by the proxy.
They won't even be able to place any liens on the property.

After a year of rent the proxy sells the property back to you with a gifted deposit 20% and you get a mortgage. The lender pays the money back to you as per the terms of the agreement. After 2 years of mortgage you pay the mortgage off.

C'est voila
 
I was thinking, would it be easier for me with AML & KMC if I could convince the seller to complete without solicitors, as I believe it is possible?
My Mentor Gold runs out today, so wont be able to reply to this thread once that happens
Thanks again for all you help.
 
woolyg said:
I was thinking, would it be easier for me with AML & KMC if I could convince the seller to complete without solicitors, as I believe it is possible?
My Mentor Gold runs out today, so wont be able to reply to this thread once that happens
Thanks again for all you help.
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NI number will still have to be given.
 

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