ceptev said:
I've been in the iptv business for a bit and I want to make sure my satoshis aren't traceable back to me.. I know it's difficult to trace, but I've read it's not impossible?
I've been using a non-kyc payment gateway for btc payments. Then I've transferred the funds from there to my btc wallet. I've also paid for servers etc using by wallet.
So how should I proceed before I cash them out?
I was thinking of using a public exchanger, swap my btc into XMR and send them to my Monero wallet, then swap them back to BTC and send them to a new and clean wallet before i cash out.
That would render them completely untracable, right?
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Monero is delisted from all regulated exchanges so, you'll not be able to use it
Zcash transactions between shielded addresses are private. People will not be able to trace back to the BTC to Zcash conversion.
Zcash addresses are either private (z-addresses) or public also known as transparent (t-addresses).
As it was mentioned before, your output crypto should not be your input crypto because The onlookers match identical BTC amounts while browsing the blockchain and then, they start investigating.
Aditionnally, BTC addresses belonging to regulated exchanges are known in the blockchain. For instance: A binance btc wallet is known to be from Binance, Thus, someone can contact binance and ask binance "who is the holder of this BTC wallet".
Coin mixer can be banned and btc can be frozen. I would not play with coin mixer, you could lose everything.
Steps using ZCASH - short solution
- convert BTC to transparent ZCASH address
- Use an unregulated official zcash wallet to send zec from transparent address to shielded address.
- Use an unregulated official zcash wallet to send shielded address to another shielded address. => here onlookers will lose track of your transactions.
- Transfer zcash to Gemini regulated exchange since they accept Zcash from shielded address. it is the only one and i don't know how long it will last
- convert in fiat
steps using ZCASH - long solution using binance and kraken at the end
- convert BTC to transparent ZCASH address (t1xxx) - regulated kyc exchange like kraken
- Use an unregulated official zcash wallet to send zec from transparent address to shielded address. (zxxx)
- Use an unregulated official zcash wallet to send shielded address to another shielded address. => here onlookers will lose track of your transactions.
- Unshield your ZEC by transfering your zec from a shielded address to a transparent address in smaller amounts. VERY important = fragment your amount in small amounts to prevent bots to track matching amounts in the zcash blockchain.
- Send from the transparent address to binance or kraken transparent address
- convert in fiat, eth
Use a Wallet That Supports Shielded Transactions:
- ✅ YWallet (Recommended, fast, low fees)
- ✅ ZecWallet (Desktop)
- ✅ Nighthawk Wallet (Mobile)
- ✅ Zashi Wallet
Since
regulated exchanges like kraken binance kucoin do not support direct shielded (z-addr) transactions, you need to first
unshield your ZEC using a
Zcash-compatible wallet before sending it to an exchange that allows trading without KYC.
Fragmentation:
Transfer the zcash in smaller amounts to avoid onlookers to look up for maching values on the Zcash blockain. Let me explain
if input t-address value equals z-address value equals z-address value equals output t-address value, then input t-address value equals output t-address value. This means that in the zcash blockchain investigators could see matching values and determine that the addresses belong to the same person (you).
So, from the z address you must send the amount in smaller amounts to the t address
To convert
shielded ZEC (z-addr) to transparent ZEC (t-addr), follow these steps:
From your conversion on a regulated exchange like binance, people may track back up to the wallet that helped you to unshield the last Zcash but then, they will be unable to go further since the transfers between shielded addresses aren't public. Nobody can see them. So, in the eyes, of the regulated crypto exchange, it is ok, because it comes from a transparent address. I don't think binance bots will look up upstream of the transparent crypto exchange.
I repeat what was said before. Don't post such information outside the mentor group.
In 2023 and 2024, Zcash war nearly banned from all regulated exchanges, now, the regulated exchanges seem to be ok with the two address type solution. It seems like the regulated exchange Gemini is the only regulated exchange that accepts zec from shielded zcash addresses.
So it could simplify the process by using Gemini exchange. However, i don't know if it will still last long because binance and kraken banned users from receiving zec from shielded addresses.
Last edited: Feb 8, 2025