Buying a car in Europe with a offshore bank account
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Your still young and naive so I understand your position. When you are north of 50 lets have this conversation again....lol. Hopefully you still have savings by then.
I live on a country where my friends make 600 euros a month, i make 3 times that every day, i think i can spend some money on things that will make my youth better. Honestly the thinking of saving every single penny is disgusting to me, maybe when you're 50, you'll think about the time and youth you spent saving money and you're not able to enjoy it like you used to 😉
I remember spending trust fund money in my youth because my grand parents were prudent enough to have a clue about money 😉. Oh and it was not huge amounts but more than the pocket money I was getting as someone who grew up broke on a third world island.
At some point you will knock up a chick, have a family and regret not forward thinking rather than just living in the moment.
At some point you will knock up a chick, have a family and regret not forward thinking rather than just living in the moment.
Well, in my particular case i never asked my family for a cent, and i live alone since 19 years old, and nothing you say is a valid point since i make money out of programming and marketing.
I have time to make money as long as my mind works well. Its︀ not a 80k car that will cause damage to my life.
I have time to make money as long as my mind works well. Its︀ not a 80k car that will cause damage to my life.
Famous last words before your mind goes conf/(%
Hey seriously it is your life and your money so spend how you want. It's not my place to tell anyone how to spend their money.
In terms of owning a car you can setup a Gibraltar company for ownership and insure and register it through the company. I don't know which European country you are in but it could be an option︀ although foreign plates will draw attention. You can buy and own the car VAT free︁ also by doing so.
Hey seriously it is your life and your money so spend how you want. It's not my place to tell anyone how to spend their money.
In terms of owning a car you can setup a Gibraltar company for ownership and insure and register it through the company. I don't know which European country you are in but it could be an option︀ although foreign plates will draw attention. You can buy and own the car VAT free︁ also by doing so.
I'm living in Portugal.
Would a better option be, opening︀ a cyprus company + bank account, a portuguese consulting company, and use the portuguese company︁ to service the fake company, this way i would only pay 23% of VAT and︂ i could buy the car in the company name, since its a tesla, i would︃ be deducting the VAT on my company expenses. So, this way i would barely have︄ to pay taxes.
is this a smart option?
Would a better option be, opening︀ a cyprus company + bank account, a portuguese consulting company, and use the portuguese company︁ to service the fake company, this way i would only pay 23% of VAT and︂ i could buy the car in the company name, since its a tesla, i would︃ be deducting the VAT on my company expenses. So, this way i would barely have︄ to pay taxes.
is this a smart option?
Humm......thats a lot of setup for car ownership. That's probably a 10k a year all in costs setup for an 80k car.︀
Gibraltar has no VAT. I am only recommending a proven option that works for many︁ tourists who want to own and drive sports cars in EU.
Gibraltar has no VAT. I am only recommending a proven option that works for many︁ tourists who want to own and drive sports cars in EU.
My money is mostly in crypto right now, what if i literally buy the car selling crypto with a bussiness account in Kraken directly to the car seller bank account in germany, and register the car in my name in portugal?
That would be the easiest possible thing to do, but does it count as tax evasion?
That would be the easiest possible thing to do, but does it count as tax evasion?
As Martin Everson recomended, setting 2 companies for the sole purpose owning a 80000 e car is not money wise. Just find a relative with sufficient taxable-legal income and talk him into buying the car in his name...
Good point. After the brexit transition period and depending on the deal negotiated by December 2020 it could be good for Gibraltar. Otherwise with a hard brexit and transition period Gibraltar will be in trouble.
Your importing the car from Germany into Portugal? VAT has already been paid on the car in Germany I assume but don't you need to consider registration costs? Have I︀ got something wrong here?
Your importing the car from Germany into Portugal? VAT has already been paid on the car in Germany I assume but don't you need to consider registration costs? Have I︀ got something wrong here?
First the car would be used, so the direct VAT is excluded because the first owner paid it.
Since its an electric car, in portugal there is no import dutties,︀ neither Co2 fees, only License plate, that costs 200euro
The problem would be the insurance,︁ but i can open activity as a service provider (something like a freelance programmer) and︂ put 10k/year in portugal free of vat/irs, only social security.. which is fine, would only︃ lose about 2k a year in taxes...
Since its an electric car, in portugal there is no import dutties,︀ neither Co2 fees, only License plate, that costs 200euro
The problem would be the insurance,︁ but i can open activity as a service provider (something like a freelance programmer) and︂ put 10k/year in portugal free of vat/irs, only social security.. which is fine, would only︃ lose about 2k a year in taxes...
Will that 10k a year pretend job be your only declared source of funds in Portugal and your driving a Tesla? Do you not think neighbors or friends who see you driving around in a Tesla will ask questions? You don't think that taxman will see your name on a Tesla and ask how its possible on a cleaners wage?
It sounds good on paper but the minute you have assets on display your a target for people wanting to know how they were acquired.
It sounds good on paper but the minute you have assets on display your a target for people wanting to know how they were acquired.
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