Buying a car in Europe with a offshore bank account

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Kids these days, they think working hard for 2 to 3 years is already⁤ a sacrifice. They can't fully grasp the concept of delayed gratification.
 
Just a correction, if you buy a car︇ through your company in Sweden, you will pay 100% VAT, unless it's a specific work︈ car, registered for specific work (tractor, truck, etc.). If you lease a car through your︉ company, you will be able to deduct 50% of the VAT on the actual lease︊ cost.
 
Thanks for the clarification. I just chose Sweden as a random example, shouldn’t have done‌ that without checking the facts.
I guess what I wrote would still be true for‍ most other countries, though. If the car can be used for private purposes, you will⁠ probably be taxed for the potential private use on a private level (like the car⁤ being a fringe benefit), but the purchase itself should be VAT exempt.
 
Yes, that is also correct and applicable for Sweden; the actual "personal benefit"⁣ of having a car leased by the company, will be added on top of your⁢ income. And (oh no, it doesn't stop here) if the company is paying for the︀ gas, you need to pay tax on top of the gas used for private trips.︁ So what's the fuss with the VAT? Well, it's 25%. So, as you wrote, high︂ tax country it is and cars should be somehow exempted with all the taxes, except︃ for this very clever Swedish system to pick as much tax as possible on a︄ thing used so much (well, maybe not these days...). Sorry for taking this so far...but︅ it's really crazy.
 
How would they know how many private trips you’ve taken?
I guess it might be‌ cheaper to buy the car on your name and then reimburse yourself for every time‍ you use the car for your company since that would be a deductible business expense.⁠

I believe it’s even worse in Estonia, though I don’t remember the details. I’ve just⁤ heard that basically nobody buys a car on their company there because the taxes are⁣ crazy.
 
You need to keep a drivers journal on every⁢ trip you've taken and it needs to state from, to, when, and if for work︀ - a specification.
 
Horrible. Definitely better to buy it on your own name then and bill the company.‌ Though I guess you could try to make stuff up.
Other countries as least give‍ you the option to keep a journal or pay more in taxes.
I’m glad I’ve⁠ left the EU.
 
As long as you live within the EU I don't think you should buy any‌ car with an offshore bank account if you goal is to avoid any taxes or‍ use black money to buy the car. You will fail.
 
Lets say you are a newcomer to the EU and never lived there before and‌ want to buy a luxury car, and you say that the source of the money‍ is from savings you earned while living elsewhere. Will that work (in terms of staying⁠ under radar not reducing costs)?
 
Buy Luxury car with off shore Account :
Tip to all nationalites. Not valid for‌ french guys.

••• Do like the world wide Super Rich •••
Go to Monaco -‍ Monte Carlo
Buy there your new or second hand car with local super car dealer⁠ (big choice), keep registrated plate in Monaco.
The super cars dealers should help to proceed⁤ all steps, payments gateaway, probably introduce to local bankers, law adviser, else....if needed.
They do⁣ that all year long for their exclusive high end customers !

You will keep below⁢ radars.
Monaco got thousands of registrated Super Cars and hundreds of Super Yachts.

Super Rich︀ have same needs and problems like yours.
They do it in Monaco (few others in︁ Swiss).

Not valid for 50Ke car value.
 
@JustAnotherNomad : I'm sorry I can't reply. Super Rich know and do it for last‌ 3 decades.
Myself to keep below radar I simply own 1ke scooter (no car). But‍ I know tales on boating and yachting... Lol... I prefer waisting money boating rathers than⁠ cars...

I can add about Monaco : it had become Grey Market for Vintage Luxury and Surper Cars. Suitcase loaded with cash exchange in hands between world wide buyers and⁤ sellers for thoses Vintages with the good will compliance of the local car dealers taking⁣ their commissions in cash or legit way !
 
The obvious advantage with Monaco is that there are no taxes if you can afford‌ to live there. If they accept lots of cash, I’m sure that’s a great benefit‍ for some people as well.

But the way I understand it, there are no other⁠ benefits to buying a car there as a non-resident?
 
Malta said:
for the cars I use a precise scheme, I open a normal LTD in Bulgaria, with which I declare my will to rent the owned cars.
If the funds with which you open and funds the company come from your private account it is not a problem, if they come from another person or from another company, just make a non-interest bearing loan contract.
If you do not want to make strange statements, just need to pay the 10% offshore flet tax on the contributions received.
Then I rent them to the natural person or to the company, I pay a minimum of taxes on the contract (like € 1000 per year) I pay 10% of taxes in Bulgaria (€ 100), and on condition that I do not have offices of the Bulgarian company that rents in other states in europe, there are no problems (the law says that if the rental company is also based in another state, such as Hertz, Avis etc., when you are in the other member state you have an obligation to nationalize the car and therefore change the license plate, this obviously does not happen if the Bulgarian company does not have other offices in Europe), from 2009 to today, they have stopped me many times, both to me and to my customers, but I have never received any fine or report .
The main rule of who has the money says that if you can afford it, pay taxes, but if you consider that when you buy the car you do not pay VAT because it is a vehicle that you then rent again, the vehicle management fees are very low, you immediately realize that if for example you take a 100K car in a state like Italy or Malta, within 3 \ 4 years you would have bought back another one with the costs and taxes you have to pay, also if you consider that in the rental fee you can insert, fuel, maintenance and pimps, you can decide to divert the management funds (taxes, stamp duty and insurance) for example on vehicle maintenance, fuel, tires.
Example I pay a 300k Lamborghini 20% less (besides the discount because you are a car rental) so let's say that I pay 230k between discount and VAT.
Give tax and stamp insurance in BG I pay about 1500 € per year with the kasco.
If I had to do the same thing in Italy, I would pay at least 17k a year, in Malta it will impossible in my opinion for the plate cost (like the same cost of the veicle).
So between tax savings, management savings and the fact that you can charge rental invoices like a cost, you can easily reach profit in this management.
How much is lamborghini worth after 4 years?
Let's say 150k, plus the savings accumulated in 4 years (another 60k) in fact you would find yourself in a condition to resell the vehicle and earn it or if you decide to keep it you will go on using it, and when you get to the 6th year, you will probably have that car all repaid with the savings you had in management.
Here is my experience

It is true that going around with a nice car with a Bulgarian license plate, not always decent, but between the savings on stamp duty and insurance, the absolute lack of tax burden on the person and obviously the ease with which you can regularly redo the contracts, the many fines that do not make because it becomes difficult to notify, for me my machines will always remain Bulgarian, it pays a lot.
(I do the comparison between Italy, Malta, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Estonia, Germany, I have never made comparisons with other states)
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Lambo with GB plates defintely screams Gipsy mafia , Nobody will bother you smi(&%

Perhaps driving eastern eu plates won't bring much attention in eu like before as most countries are flooded with migrants from ukraine and neighouring countries. I see an increase in these plates even locally so police won't check as much imo

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Lambo with GB plates defintely screams Gipsy mafia , Nobody︍ will bother you smi(&%

Perhaps driving eastern eu plates won't bring much attention in eu like︎ before as most countries are flooded with migrants from ukraine and neighouring countries. I see️ an increase in these plates even locally so police won't check as much imo
 
Can that be︂ done if you don't reside in Monaco and live in another EU country? Buying a︃ car with cash in Monaco, getting Monaco license plates and then have it in another︄ EU country without issues?

I have seen some guys in Spain who own supercars with︅ Monaco license plates.
 
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