Secure chat to replace wickr

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Already mentioned but am only here to confirm: Session is the only good app to replace wickr if not BETTER! No sign up details needed!
 
JohnnyDoe said:
does it still exist? I remember you could find useful resources there back in the time when smartphones didn't exist
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Yes, it still is alive, plenty of information in there nowadays too but of the low quality, nothing you probably don't know.

And I had forgotten about keet.io, someone might find it useful.
 
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someone also recommended crypviser
 
Can we use Wickr and Session for Video call like Skype and MS meet ? if not, what would be a secured video call program ?
 
JohnnyDoe said:
Yes you can. But you should forget Wickr as new users cant register after 31 dec 22 and it will be discontinued on 31 dec 23
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I only need it for a single video call during the next weeks after that I don't have a need for such for some time.
 
Let's not forget that the prime function of any chat is to be able to reach out and to connect other people. What is a point to use unpopular apps, which are used by less than 1% of your contacts? It's usless. So the good chat is a popular chat in the first place. Just whatsapp and skype can encompass 70% of the earth population. And if you need some specific markets such as China, Thailand or Philippines, you could always add relevant apps such as wechat, line, viber to be covered completely.

IMHO it's a mere bs to overthink regarding security. All popular chats are encrypted and secure enough to keep your conversations private. If you are someone like Pablo Escobar and one day CIA decided to track you down, "secure" chat or protonmail wouldn't help you.
 
Mr Eros said:
Let's not forget that the prime function of any chat is to be able to reach out and to connect other people. What is a point to use unpopular apps, which are used by less than 1% of your contacts? It's usless.
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Exactly.

You'll end up installing the top 3 most popular ones to cover 60% of your contacts, and if you're like me, you will have to nag people to install at least one of them.

1. Buy a Pixel phone and prepaid anonymous SIM with cash.

2. Wipe the device before you insert the SIM and install Graphene OS. It's not as hard as it sounds.

3. Install the top 3 most secure chat apps that you need and move on with your life.

This is honestly the best you can do at this time.

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Mr Eros said:
Let's not forget that the prime function of any chat is to be able to reach out and to connect other people. What is a point to use unpopular apps, which are used by less than 1% of your contacts? It's usless. So the good chat is a popular chat in the first place. Just whatsapp and skype can encompass 70% of the earth population. And if you need some specific markets such as China, Thailand or Philippines, you could always add relevant apps such as wechat, line, viber to be covered completely.

IMHO it's a mere bs to overthink regarding security. All popular chats are encrypted and secure enough to keep your conversations private. If you are someone like Pablo Escobar and one day CIA decided to track you down, "secure" chat or protonmail wouldn't help you.
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1. If your business contacts can't take reasonable precautions to protect sensitive information, are they really worth doing business with?

2. Privacy isn't measured in absolutes. Just because you can't mitigate 100% of threats, doesn't mean you shouldn't take reasonable steps to stay safe. It's kind of like saying don't bother locking your door because someone can still break the window. The more steps you can take, the better.

3. I wouldn't suggest using whatsapp due to their policy on pen registering (they keep a list of who you contact, and when). I wouldn't suggest Skype.

4. There are tons of reasons to want to ensure privacy and confidentiality other than being Pablo Escobar.
 
DarkRevoMan said:
1. If your business contacts can't take reasonable precautions to protect sensitive information, are they really worth doing business with?

2. Privacy isn't measured in absolutes. Just because you can't mitigate 100% of threats, doesn't mean you shouldn't take reasonable steps to stay safe. It's kind of like saying don't bother locking your door because someone can still break the window. The more steps you can take, the better.

3. I wouldn't suggest using whatsapp due to their policy on pen registering (they keep a list of who you contact, and when). I wouldn't suggest Skype.

4. There are tons of reasons to want to ensure privacy and confidentiality other than being Pablo Escobar.
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There's also a big difference between people who refuse to encrypt and keep affairs private and those who are willing to let you guide them to install X, Y, or Z to get business done.

The former is a lost cause, and I walk from doing business with such people also.

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