Secure chat to replace wickr

[void]

I agree this is the most secure solution without compromise and doubts what third party solution︆ is and what is not a honeypot

I was running my own XMPP server for︇ years as described but we ended up using it internally with my closest coworkers because︈ the client apps mostly suck big (despite there are tens of options) and it's mission︉ impossible to guide anyone outside to install the right one for his OS/device and responding︊ to complaints why it gets disconnected from time to time, why notifications are not reliable︋ and file upload doesn't work at all - it's simply not worth the hassle to︌ setup for occasional communication

so I ended up using signal, wickr or session which is︍ good enough for my threat model however it's worth noting that these new apps are︎ impossibly immature and even basic stuff like full text searching the messages are pain in️ the a*s - ICQ 25 years ago was on another level

 

[JohnLocke]

Agree, has been working fine for us for some‌ time. We have been using it for corporate clients for a faster chat.

 

[Simon4466]

Good to hear.‍

Regarding the XMPP chat, wouldn't that just add another attack vector as you would need⁠ to host your own server somewhere?

 

[0cca]

Using XMPP gives you‍ the opportunity to be responsible for yourself. You need to maintain your server and choose⁠ the location wisely. But you can also access quite a few public servers, if you⁤ keep a low profile there are no problems. And if you need it very secure⁣ in general, just use a PGP manager like Cleopatra and you can write emails in⁢ peace again.

 

[12345]

One person asked me to use XMPP chat and it looked like it was created‌ 20 years ago,terrible user experience and crappy design, why would anybody use it ? I‍ think only serious criminals, what's the point for normal person? I wouldn't use whatsapp /⁠ facebook either for business but telegram/singal is enough, quite safe and popular. Wearing bulletproof vest⁤ everyday is good comparison to using these crappy apps.

 

[Clank]

XMPP is just a protocol to transmit the messages, the messaging app can be modern or⁣ old depending on which one you choose, there are plenty of options 🙂

You can think⁢ about it the same way as email works, you can use Outlook, Apple Mail or︀ Thunderbird as a client.

 

[0cca]

Haha, you made me lough. I understand your thought, but it's not like that. It's just⁣ like Microsoft Teams, but without the calls and all that. It's privacy oriented. If you⁢ don't want to share your data with Bill or Zuckerburg, no matter if someone reads︀ it or in what kind of algorithm it is processed... then get that old school︁ feeling, and start a chat over XMPP... it's cool.