Wise account for Cyprus company - waitlist

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I tried to set up a Wise account today for my company in Cyprus. During registration, I received information that:
"Due to high demand, we can't onboard business from this country right now. Join the waitlist, and we'll email you when you're able to sigh up"
Has anyone had a similar situation recently? Anyone know how much is in practice waiting on this waitlist?
Has anyone recently created an account on Revolut or is there a similar situation there too?
 
This is the case for a number of countries with Wise right now. I have‌ heard about people who have been on the wait list for over a month, Cyprus‍ and elsewhere.
 
do you think it's only like that on Wise? My second choice is Revoult, I‌ wonder if it looks similar there. If it really lasted a month, it wouldn't be‍ so bad
 
It's specific to Wise. Nothing stops you from going with one EMI now and Wise‌ later when it's your turn in the wait list.
 
It's the same with Revolut for Cyprus & Malta.

Most likely becaue of pressure from‌ the EU as Wise is Belgium based and Revolut Lithuania based.

I'm pretty much sure‍ that they receive as by far the biggest EMI's in EU some pressure from the⁠ EU to not make it too easy for EU nationals switching there base to the⁤ islands - BoC and all Malta banks already reflect this since years.

Furthermore both relay⁣ on correspondence network and therefore you couldn't send with Cyprus Company USD with Wise since⁢ forever.

The best replacement if you deal with EUR is Paysera as they give you︀ dedicated SEPA/SWIFT IBAN via TARGET2.

However when you deal with USD you can't work with︁ EMI's as no other EMI actually really provides you with a facility like Revolut /︂ Wise does.

You can only stick to a few high risk EMI's that charge you︃ an Arm and a Leg for transfering around - see Wallter they have a St.︄ Lucia based Correspondence Bank and chagre you flat % for incoming and outgoing up to︅ 5%.

I have seen them recently being used by a lot of clients based on︆ Cyprus switching to Dubai - as there is no other possibility actually for those opening︇ Cyprus lately - Malta is already longer a problem - they stopped already in 2019/2020︈ onboarding Malta and now with the FATF grey listing it's even getting more worse.

A waitlist is always a nice looking excuse:

Take a look on moneynetint.com they have actually︉ a waitlist as well but not because they want to - it's because there daughter︊ company Globalnetint has regulator issues in Lithuania:

https://www.lb.lt/en/sfi-financial-market-participants/globalnetint-uabhttps://www.globalnetint.com/news
Ask yourself if you want to︋ count on small islands in 2021.

I'm pretty sure like @Martin Everson said as well︌ - Malta & Cyprus are easy targets to set an example from EU as they︍ don't have any economy beside of getting you CySec CFD licenses & Gambling licenses.
 
Info from Wise:

Unfortunately, due to high demand, we can't onboard businesses from some countries,‌ including Cyprus, right now.

We would not have the ability to appropriately provide adequate service‍ at this time.

We expect to be able to offer this again sometime in the⁠ future, but we don't have an exact time frame for this. I would personally estimate⁤ at least not for several months.

We're sorry that we are unable to help in⁣ this circumstance and we wish you the best for your business plan.
 
why is paysera not subject to the same pressure as Wise︎ or Revoult? just because it has fewer customers? it doesn't make any sense?
paysera only️ supports euro or you can also open a balance in USD?
 
Only dedicated EUR⁠ IBAN for SEPA/SWIFT payments.

You basically answered the question already to yourself - Paysera avoids⁤ USD and therefore they don't get the same pressure like Revolut and Wise - both⁣ Revolut and Wise operating in US.

I know it's surprisingly for you if you are⁢ new to the offshore space at all but USD was not working for Cyprus with︀ Wise since forever and this below is just one of the reasons:

https://ibccs.tax/uncategorized/banking-and-shell-companies-in-cyprus/
https://chambers.com/articles/clari...ised-definition-by-the-central-bank-of-cyprus
Cyprus simply considered for too long banking Belize etc companies so that US even responded with︁ canceling US correspondence for the whole island in 2018.
 
ok thanks
I have the option to open an account directly with a︀ hellenic bank in cyprus and maybe it will be the best solution. the only problem︁ is the long waiting time to open accounts and high fees. Alternatively, I will consider︂ Paysera
 
it will‍ work well as long as you always have invoices to backup each transaction you are⁠ doing.
 
It's paramount to always have your documents‍ in place. Invoices are some of the most important to generate for each incoming transaction⁠ you receive on your account.

That does not only apply for EMI's but as well⁤ for bank account's.
 
Hi everyone, I've been on the waitlist for two weeks already. Same CY LTD, but‌ already client with them from my previous Delaware Corp
 
That is not entirely correct.

Wise has had USD for Cyprus (individuals and companies) for many‍ quite a while now. You get local bank details like they have for GBP in⁠ UK, SGD in Singapore, and so on. The account cannot be used to send or⁤ receive SWIFT in USD, though. It only works for domestic transactions in the US. If⁣ you need to send USD out, you'll need to convert to another currency first which⁢ is certainly not ideal.

So it depends on your use case.

https://wise.com/help/articles/2810318/can-i-get-usd-account-details
 
Of course, Cyprus is not in the same sad league like Malaysia⁢ or India (funny that Wise does not allow USD acc. for these jurisdictions). However, if︀ I can only receive USD, I am not able to (properly) transact in USD. As︁ you already mentioned, it requires me to convert my USD in another currency and then︂ proceed with the transaction.
Not sure how others see it but for me this classifies︃ as a heavily restricted account with which I am unable to fulfil a transaction properly.︄
It also begs the question: If somebody sends me USD from inside the US, can︅ I pay another person within the US via ACH? I did not try this but︆ I guess the answer is No because all outgoing USD transactions (not only USD SWIFT)︇ are blocked.
 
I'm a long-time customer (around six years), with both my personal and US company accounts‍ on Wise. I tried to add my new company (CY Limited) and I've been put⁠ on the waitlist...
 
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