Which one is better DeepSeek or ChatGPT ?
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Ton of people on internet saying since May they experience slow performance and at times accuracy has fallen off with many hallucinations in results. So your not alone.
P.S Some fixed it by deleting chat history.
P.S Some fixed it by deleting chat history.
If people are looking for an European alternative, Nebius AI has all of the Chinese models and much more at reasonable prices. Cheap and easy to set-up. Your data protected by EU privacy laws I think but don't take my word for it.
I personally like Venice, their DeepSeek models (and the ones based on them) are immensely good for role-playing and system prompts, unfiltered and uncensored output and I trust Mr. Voorhees to not share data, but it would be an even more attractive proposition if the company were based offshore with the servers in privacy jurisdiction.
Venice will likely at some point add︀ privacy-enhancing features like prompt-encryption.
I personally like Venice, their DeepSeek models (and the ones based on them) are immensely good for role-playing and system prompts, unfiltered and uncensored output and I trust Mr. Voorhees to not share data, but it would be an even more attractive proposition if the company were based offshore with the servers in privacy jurisdiction.
Venice will likely at some point add︀ privacy-enhancing features like prompt-encryption.
If you want privacy, it's easy and doesn't cost money and you don't need to worry about your data.
Just download an AI model and run it offline on your local computer. If your PC isn't powerful enough, use a VPS.
Just download an AI model and run it offline on your local computer. If your PC isn't powerful enough, use a VPS.
If you are concerned about privacy, or you simply want access to various ai's from one webapp, I suggest using an AI wrapper like ppq.ai or openrouter.ai
Using these, you can use different AI engines for different uses. For example, chatgpt o3 for advanced reasoning or web research, and then deepseek for cheap queries.
-The accounts are anonymous
-You only need to pay once
-You can pay with crypto
Notes:
-PPQ has o3 but without web search
-For openrouter, to use o3 you have to provide your own api key, so it doesn't work for privacy. But there is an alternative that's at least as︀ good in terms of quality of advanced reasoning and deepresearch, which is called Perplexity Sonar︁ Deep Research (just note that it's slow and has iffy uptime, so it may fail︂ searches, and you have to keep retrying)
-Gemini 2.0 and 2.5 have similar quality to︃ chatgpt 4o and o3, but at much lower cost that's similar to deepseek2
Using these, you can use different AI engines for different uses. For example, chatgpt o3 for advanced reasoning or web research, and then deepseek for cheap queries.
-The accounts are anonymous
-You only need to pay once
-You can pay with crypto
Notes:
-PPQ has o3 but without web search
-For openrouter, to use o3 you have to provide your own api key, so it doesn't work for privacy. But there is an alternative that's at least as︀ good in terms of quality of advanced reasoning and deepresearch, which is called Perplexity Sonar︁ Deep Research (just note that it's slow and has iffy uptime, so it may fail︂ searches, and you have to keep retrying)
-Gemini 2.0 and 2.5 have similar quality to︃ chatgpt 4o and o3, but at much lower cost that's similar to deepseek2
I use ChatGPT almost 24/7 for everything I write and for working across different languages, it’s never been easier to run an international business.
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