Where should one keep their wealth to avoid future potential sanctions?

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Very true, so it's important not to keep too much money with banks, and to⁠ manage all your accounts online, so you can quickly move your money if you hear⁤ something bad coming.

Alternatively, I do own 20 Austrian philarmonics (silver). Some days, I think⁣ I should buy more.
 
+1. You stumbled into the truth. In the U.S., agriculture produces a steady 10%+ return⁠ over many time horizons (10 years, 20 years, 30 years, etc.), with very low volatility.⁤ Agricultural land produces an income that beats every other investment over those time horizons, including⁣ the stock markets.

Plus people always need food, so there is an extremely low risk⁢ of any type of sanctions on food. Even if sanctions apply one day, so what?︀ The locals will eat your food. Exports are simply a bonus.

Like I said, agriculture︁ produces a steady ten percent return in the U.S. But if you build a farm︂ in Latin America, where agricultural land costs 50% to 70% less and labor costs 80%︃ less than in the U.S. -- well, I will let you do the math. Farms︄ are a dynamic cash cow with low volatility. But there is a big learning curve︅ to do it right.
 
Can you elaborate a bit further: Why do you‍ think that crypto is the only good way to preserve wealth?

Currently crypto does not⁠ look very convincing as a way to preserve wealth.
It seems to have a significant⁤ correlation with the stock market, therefore being a pure "risk-on" asset ....
 
Yes, if there was⁤ any doubt that crypto is NOT digital gold during a worldwide financial panic, the Ukraine⁣ crisis definitively proved it. Crypto has been significantly correlated to equities during every significant panic.⁢ It is clear that investors do not see it as a safe haven asset during︀ a crisis.
 
You cannot just⁤ arbitrarily pick a short timeframe and claim its correlation be true for longer periods as⁣ well. On top, you only look at it thru the usd lense, for which as⁢ you stated correctly that correlation is true at the moment.
If you look at it︀ thru a Russian Rouble lense, Bitcoin is at an all time high as is the︁ case looking at it thru an UAH lense and the Venezuelan Bolivar lense.

However, USD︂ formation looks very vulnerable at the moment and it can happen there as well.
 
I think when talking about wealth preservation we︀ can only look through the USD lense. Precious metals are also measured in USD and︁ that is the benchmark when discussing safe-haven assets.

Nevertheless, only 10 days of war have︂ past and the West has already fired all of its sanctions ammunition. The Russian economy︃ is destroyed, the war raging and -most likely- close to its peak. Considering all this︄ I am surprised that gold is still below its ATH.
May be we should start︅ positioning for a time after the war and look into "risk-on" assets ...
 
what I see destroyed is‌ the eu economy. After covid and green craziness, the war has been against the europoide‍ resilence, and this war is way f**king lost.
Stay under USD or RMB, EUR will⁠ slowly loose relevance in the global context.
Eu will need new food providers, at any⁤ price, so land and agriculture will be more important than ever. Crypto could - finally⁣ - become a payment system and not a simple value storage, so having some money⁢ in it can be a smart move. Real estate outside USD colonies also is a︀ good investment, and remote working will need houses with an extra room or decentralized coworking︁ offices.
 
That makes sense up︀ until now for people with access to modern banking at least. But not in a︁ multipolar world with an emerging powerless USA which will lose the reserve currency status within︂ this decade. With this power gone, you ought to look at it thru your local︃ currency or even better thru hard assets.

Maybe EU turns to North Africa (Morocco, Algeria etc) for this...
 
Definitely true. Euro is doomed - ECB policy is idiotic and‍ always was. I never understood why somebody from outside the Euro area would want to⁠ save money in that dumb hybrid "currency".
This is indeed true. Russia knows about the precarious situation of the EU with⁢ regards to food security.
If Russia controls Ukraine the EU will loose it's cheap access︀ agricultural products and Russia eliminated one of its competitors on the international agri-market (think wheat︁ production, fertilizer etc.)
Most likely - Yes!
The signs for that happening are already︄ written on the wall: Smaller countries are turning it into legal tender. Ukraine is collecting︅ war-donations in crypto. Russia did not ban it, well knowing that they will need alternatives︆ to tightly controlled fiat.
This is not a viable option. These countries do not︈ produce enough of anything to fill the gap left by Russia/Ukraine.
Most of North Africa︉ is desert and the few fertile grounds they have are hardly comparable to the "black︊ earth" of Ukraine.

People say that for many years already. Nothing has happened so far. Government s will only︌ accept another fiat currency to become reserve currency. No crypto, no gold ... - not︍ for governments. And in the fiat universe there is nothing viable to function as reserve︎ currency: CHF/AUD/CAD are not liquid because they are too small. EUR is a dysfunctional catastrophe️ in itself. RMB is tightly controlled hence on an international stage not useful (might change‌ in the future).
 
Egypt is more⁣ than 100 millions of people, I have no data but I bet North Africa is⁢ net importer of food. Btw the Italian and Spain olive oil in made from Tunis︀ olive plants! smi(&% Also, Algeria is an ally of Russia, and they are in a very︁ tense situation with Morocco. Libya has been occupied by Russia and Turkey.
 
Once the invasion with Putin has subsided, issues such as the above will be irrelevant,‌ one could hide in the Maldives, Mexico and, if necessary, in Brazil or Somalia.
 
I guess a lot of countries tried⁠ to stay “neutral” and EUSSR gave them this false idea (more or less like they⁤ buy the French Rafale to stay neutral between USA and Russian military equipment).
Firing all⁣ the sanctions including the so called “nuke option” opened the eyes to a lot of⁢ countries. Have a look at what they are talking in India right now:
India about︀ SWIFT sanctions
Belarus is the producer of 40%︄ of ammonia and fertilizers used in eu (some sources say in the world). Just the︅ sanctions against Lukashenka skyrocketed food price, guess what will happen soon with Russian and Ukrainian︆ production out of eu market!
Even that, I see more︊ CBDC than crypto adoption tbh, so I say some money, but not a lot! 😉
Correct
China CBCD is⁠ done for international mass adoption. Mozambique already use it as a national currency. Almost all⁤ the smartphones shipped to Africa got a Yuan wallet already installed. China already said that⁣ the African Franc will be substituted by the RMB. Soon RMB will become the reserve⁢ currency in all Africa. They are a bit slow, but you know Chinese are patient︀ people…
Btw Russia eliminated any tax over gold buying!
 
Yes, overall North-African‍ countries are net importers
With regards to Egypt: It is the world's largest importer of⁠ wheat. That is the case since the early 1970's and has not changed much since⁤ that time. Even though the country was able to increase its self-sufficiency. There is however⁣ no potential for any exports.

It will be interesting to watch if this food-crisis will be an opportunity︀ for non-aligned developing nations such as Egypt, Africa and some Asian nations: Russia and Ukraine︁ (even in case the latter being under control of Russia) will continue to produce ample︂ food. This stuff needs to go somewhere. Until recently, Western nations were able to pay︃ higher prices which meant they bought what they wanted. Only what they did not buy︄ went to developing countries. However, Westerners have kicked themself out of the Russian market. Will︅ these agricultural products now find its way to the developing world, with friendly price tag︆ to open new markets/gain sympathy/find new friends?
With this "weapon" Russia could once again try︇ what the Soviet Union did quite successful: Split the world and effectively win over sympathies︈ in many of the poorer nations on Planet Earth.
 
Where present in Africa, Russians are welcomed. This⁠ time, if well played, they team up with China, and can be an unstoppable force.⁤
 
Agree,but many changed from⁤ previous assumption and save countries

Here i disagree.In︃ europe there is no country where you won't lose big chunk of money which are︄ invested in RE.You are making the mistake like all pro real estates guys calling it︅ an inflation instead of stagflation.Big mistake .
Also you miss the risk which happened in︆ history already many times that your RE will be used to take forced mortage so︇ governments can pay for the needs of its citizen.

Its not about china.Its about germany.US fears Russia︊ getting with China together as this is the only constalation which could threat US.Thats why︋ EU will split and create the 3 sea intitative to make sure they will never︌ join forces.Remember the people of germany are pro russian and many of them even lived︍ before in russia.
 
What the hell are you talking about ... when were real estate investors⁣ ever "forced to take mortgage" in Europe?
There is no country in Europe where you⁢ won't lose big chunk of money? But a few days ago you wanted to buy︀ apartments in Russia? rof/%

Seriously dude, you should seek professional help. Your posts are delusional

Been hearing that for at least 10 years, so far︃ everybody that said that was wrong.
Every week in this forum people talk about how︄ wires in USD are scrutinized\blocked and how everybody needs to avoid USD to keep their︅ BK accounts alive (with some banks not even giving a USD IBAN at all), all︆ these people end up using EUR instead. So I don't see EUR being "doomed" any︇ time soon.
 
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Lastenausgleich was the post World War II program and laws to︁ recompense Germans and ethnic Germans who fled their homelands for their lost properties. This was︂ a very complicated law that transferred enormous wealth to the immigrants over a period of︃ decades. It may well have provided a strong basis for the Wirtschaftswunder or German "economic︄ miracle" in the post-war era. Economic analysis of this activity could influence modern tax laws︅ for understanding how transfer of wealth through higher minimum wage laws and direct transfers can︆ influence a modern economy.

The value of "lost" property during the war was paid at︇ a rate of 50% of its value quarterly over as much as 30 years. By︈ 1982 over 115 billion DM (about $70 billion US dollars as of 1999, when Germany︉ adopted Euros as its currency) has been spent. This outweighs hugely the value of something︊ more than $1 billion Germany received through the Marshall Plan.
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Lastenausgleich - Wikipedia︋

Interesting to note that country also just recently amended respective laws.
 
there are a lot of laws in the past in europe just research it yourself.The new︁ ones are hidden in social laws to pay for the damages on vaccinated.
Secondly poland︂ is currently working on a new law which says RE which are currently not being︃ used (even if you are on a business travel for a month) will be taken︄ for the immigrants.
So much to your personal property and your rights to it.

Also you missed the stagflation part.You think you will be able to get higher rents to︅ neutral the inflation in a stagflation where people don't make more money and their living︆ costs are exploding?
You think there will be enough buyers with spiking interest rates and︇ way lower ppp ?

What you think how many RE will be foreclosed because of︈ people not being able to pay their mortage or the price diffrence between their mortage︉ amount and the value of RE ?
2009-2011 says hello to you

And you are︊ fully correct i'm still interrested at these cheap prices to buy RE in russia and︋ would love to invest in their ADR's at these peanuts prices
 
Yup the dollar will eventually be⁣ toast and RMB will dominate. You want to sell oil and goods to China then⁢ guess what China is not gonna want to pay you in USD at some point.︀ People are not seeing the big picture of what China is actually doing in developing︁ countries with its RMB currency swap lines. Even with the Chinese CIPS payment network. Even︂ Russia entered into a currency swap agreement with RMB which will cushion the sanctions. And︃ when RMB is pegged to USD for now who needs USD and risk of arbitrary︄ sanctions.

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"Argentina has also realized China’s importance when it comes to finance.︅ Thirteen years ago, Argentina agreed to a currency swap deal with China worth just over︆ $10 billion at the time. Argentina was not alone – 22 others including Malaysia︇ and Indonesia also did so around the same time, and since then Nigeria and Sri Lanka have also negotiated swaps. Argentina and China renewed their swap in 2014 and 2017,︈ and this year, in 2022, Argentina secured an increase – making the entire swap now︉ worth $23.7 billion.

The swap entails an agreement between both countries’ central banks, where︊ each country has a local-based account in the other’s currency, enabling the banks to draw︋ funds from the accounts for needs and to repay with interest, including for trade settlement.︌ For China, the swap is helpful in interacting internationally without relying too much on the︍ dollar. For Argentina and others, the swap is similarly helpful for trade but also︎ offers alternative options to International Monetary Fund (IMF) lending and eases foreign reserves. Argentina has️ experienced several fiscal crises over the years and is due to repay about $3-4 billion‌ to the IMF in the first quarter of 2022, including interest and principal payments. So‍ the recent increase of the China swap helps, and seems likely to continue to grow."⁠


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We are going to eventually have two separate financial systems. One future⁤ thinking and dominated by China and CIPS and the other legacy and failing that will⁣ be dominated by US and USD.

Everyone should read the below article fully.

https://thediplomat.com/2022/02/chi...es-far-beyond-the-falklands-malvinas-dispute/

https://iems.ust.hk/publications/th...ts-of-chinas-yuan-as-the-next-global-currency
 
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