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thirtyniner

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(In the hope of getting some feedback from experts on the matter)

Dear All,

I'm a EU citizen and I have incorporated a company in Hong Kong 6 years ago. It is a legit business related with textiles (import & export to and from Europe/Midlle-East and Far-East), and more recently, also on Personal Protective Equipment. I hold both corporate and personal accounts.

The company has reached a time where it needs to expand to at least 1 more jurisdiction, so the eggs can be properly distributed. I have been reading a lot (whatever is available other then with the thousands Agent Companies online), and have compared Belize, Costa Rica, BVI, Panama, Bahamas and Cayman. I left asside the Eastern, European and African offshore jurisdictions, so my preference would go to Central America or Caribbean options (Can be the ones I mentioned or others). I would like to have your opinion based on the following requirements:

- Besides the current businesses, I would like to create an online business (selling consumer goods), mainly to American and European countries (The physical
- A possibility is also a Marketing affiliate business;
- I would like to invest in real state. Initially buy a house or a condo, where I can spend 3/4 weeks a year and rent in during the remaining period (This is the reason why I haven't previously sellected Nevis or Dominica);
- Obtain a passport from that jurisdiction (linked to the previous item off course);
- Company yearly maintenance costs should be bellow 2k;
- Capital requirement bellow 50k;
- Coporate tax, dividends tax: 0%
- Return for low risk investment around 4%/year (I used to have this in HK);
- Company opening can be made online or presencially, although it would be good the first one as travelling is limited now due to COVID-19;
- Reliable jurisdiction and stable government (this is what we all want, right?)

Besides what I have mentioned above, one of the reasons to look for an alternative is the escalation of China dominance over HK.

I can also consider to open a subsidiary company other then a total independent one. What do you suggest? What would be the pros and cons?

Considering bearer shares are no longer available in the majority of the jurisdictions, what would be the alternative other then the nominee director and shareholder?

Thank you so much.
 
you really dont have much options left. Any EU country will be liable for VAT. American LLC would have WHT.
Caribbean islands, banking and PSP's will be your issue.

2K is not gonna cut it as those ones will have some form of tax (UK LLP and US LLC).

So you have the options below.

UAE 6K
Seychelles & Mauritius 4K (limited number of PSP's)
 
CaptK said:
you really dont have much options left. Any EU country will be liable for VAT. American LLC would have WHT.
Caribbean islands, banking and PSP's will be your issue.

2K is not gonna cut it as those ones will have some form of tax (UK LLP and US LLC).

So you have the options below.

UAE 6K
Seychelles & Mauritius 4K (limited number of PSP's)
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Thanks for your feedback. When you mean that in the Caribbean, Banking and PSP (stands for?) will be a problem, what are you referring to?

Regarding the yearly costs, they can be increased a bit.
 
Payment Service Providers, the banks are slow and antiquated unless you bank in Cayman or BVI. Problem with those is the pain of getting other banks to receive payments from them.
You can bank in other Jurisdiction but a strong case as to why you need to bank there and a hefty term deposit will be required.
 
CaptK said:
Payment Service Providers, the banks are slow and antiquated unless you bank in Cayman or BVI. Problem with those is the pain of getting other banks to receive payments from them.
You can bank in other Jurisdiction but a strong case as to why you need to bank there and a hefty term deposit will be required.
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But do you thing there would be a problem with wire transfers between BVI/Cayman and Hong Kong?

In case a new company was formed (this is an option), what would be the best jurisdiction? None is advised for Real State investment?

I can also create a personal account and transfer the funds over-there as dividends to shareholder. Would then be the problem?

I'm open to a debate on different solutions, as my main goal is to have the money spread and not struck in one jurisdiction.
 
you have to decide whether you dont mind paying or invoicing your clients with either VAT or WHT or you could go tax free in the UAE with no issues whatsoever.
 
I would like to have other opinions, and eventually, suggestion of other jurisdictions.

I'm rephrasing the requirement list to make it easier and have better feedback from Forum experts:

"Dear All,

I'm a EU citizen and I have incorporated a company in Hong Kong 6 years ago. It is a legit business related with textiles (import & export to and from Europe/Midlle-East and Far-East), and more recently, also on Personal Protective Equipment. I hold both corporate and personal accounts.

The company has reached a time where it needs to expand to at least 1 more jurisdiction, so the eggs can be properly distributed. I can consider any jurisdiction to cover as most possibilities as poissible. My aim is privacy and tax avoidance.

I would like to raise a new company from the ground, with a different business area: Affiliate marketing, business intermediation and eventually crypto investment.

In terms of banking, I can consider both standard and digital onces, as long as my assets are safe.

The jurisdiction shall have 0% tax and capital requirement bellow 20k USD

The jurisdiction must allow to purchase passport with local investment (local companies, real state, etc). My resident country allows up to 7 passports.

Company opening can be made online or presencially, although it would be good the first one as travelling is limited now due to COVID-19;

Reliable jurisdiction and stable government (this is what we all want, right?)

Thank you so much."
 
I'm not sure exactly but you will be limited to certain exchanges with an LLC like Binance USA.
 
OP you are still around? If so, let us know if you got the answers you were looking for??
 
Hello,

Yes, I'm around. I have not yet made the move, but I'll make it within next month.

In fact, I opened a new thread regarding this here on the mentor group, but got no feedback (I wonder why, when we are supposed to help each other).

Not even for proposals I was contacted by service providers in the forum.

The new thread is this one:

https://www.offshorecorptalk.com/threads/after-some-time-new-company-formation.35044
 

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