What's the tax percentage if you invest via US brokers?

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I was given two conflicting pieces of information from US brokers.
  1. There is a 20% dividend and interest tax withheld for my country.
  2. Withholding rate depends on my income tax level.
If the dividends paid out by the stocks I hold is $10K/yr, what would be the withholding rate on that? About 10% (marginal tax rate) or 20%? Any ideas?

(PS. This tax is automatically taken by the broker AFAIK)
If it's like 20%, I'm thinking of investing in stocks that don't pay dividends. When you sell after 1 year, you don't pay any tax on your gains to the US AFAIK.

Pinging @Martin Everson @rowena 🙂
 
Withholding tax for dividends are 30% for US stocks/etfs, it doesn't matter where the broker‌ is.
If your country has a tax treaty with the US that reduced withholding taxes‍ to 20%, then it would be 20% provided that you fill out w9-ben with tax⁠ treaty declaration.
All US efts are required to pay out dividends, so to find stocks⁤ that don't pay dividends you need to look at individual stocks.
 


Wrong. Its not W9. Its W8.

Again, wrong. TRBCX pays no dividends.

I do⁢ not like that you are giving false information to people here.
 
Whats your country?

Your country may charge you capital gains tax depending on which country it is. I can't⁣ answer without knowing your specific country.
 
Where exactly does that‌ come from?

https://www.dividendinvestor.com/dividend-history-detail/trbcx/

Dec. 12, 2019Dec. 13, 2019Dec. 12, 2019Dec. 16, 2019‍0.340
Dec. 12, 2019Dec. 13, 2019Dec. 12, 2019Dec. 16, 20190.110



Dec. 12, 2018Dec. 13, 2018Dec. 12, 2018Dec. 14, 20180.090
Dec. 12, 2018⁠Dec. 13, 2018Dec. 12, 2018Dec. 14, 20182.250


US equities are really specific⁤ - not just ETFs but also REITs (which have to distribute earnings) as well as⁣ MLPs (which also distribute - only it is not called a "dividend" but a "cash⁢ distribution" and that one is taxed even worse for non-US guys).

Withholding tax is 30︀ % if you do not declare your domicile, as was correctly stated above.

If you︁ want to buy something that just accumulates earnings, find a single company that does stock︂ buybacks or the owner dislikes dividends (e.g. Berkshire).
 
I don't like Google mate if you know what I'm talking about 🙂 I don't⁠ think I can PM here.

I think you pay the capital gains tax to the⁤ country you are resident of, for pretty much all countries. This is from my tax⁣ treaty:

The taxation of capital gains under the Agreement is essentially the same as under⁢ most recent U.S. tax treaties. In general, except for real property and business property, the︀ country of the seller's residence is given the exclusive right to tax capital gains. A︁ limited exception to this general rule relates to the alienation of corporate shares. Under the︂ exemption, one Contracting State may, in accordance with its law, tax a resident of the︃ other State on the gain from the alienation of shares issued by a corporation that︄ is a resident of the first Contracting State if (i) the shares are not quoted︅ on a stock exchange in the first Contracting State; (ii) the shares are alienated to︆ a resident of that State; and (iii) the seller held the securities for one year︇ or less. (Current U.S. law does not impose tax on a foreign person on the︈ disposal of shares in a U.S. corporation.)

As you can guess, the main goal is︉ to maximize growth. I'm looking into if I can use tax advantaged accounts like Roth︊ IRA or not. A reputable broker who knows my situation told me I can create︋ a Roth IRA with them but someone on the internet told me that's not legal.︌ Roth IRA helps you avoid federal tax and I don't know if that corresponds to︍ the ALL of the tax withholding. (I'm aware of estate tax 40% and age 59︎ limitation but don't know the specifics.)

Do you happen to know anything about Roth IRA️ or other tax advantaged accounts?

Btw I consulted with a few people and I think‌ the tax withholding rate is a set rate, and it doesn't depend on income level.‍
 
Sorry the form is called w8ben not w9ben.
All US etf that receives dividends are‍ required to pay them out. If the etf doesn't receive any dividends then there will⁠ not be any to pay out.

Great that you don't like that people write incorrect⁤ information on this forum. You should check all the other posts on the forum. Thanks!⁣
 
Wait a minute - so if I live in a country that doesn’t tax capital‌ gains (or taxes them at a lower rates than the US) and that has a‍ DTA with the US, I will *still* have to pay the US taxes? I was⁠ hoping I would only pay the taxes in my home country.
 
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