What is the safest way to invest in gold: physical storage or ETF?

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fc70 said:
If you want to own physical gold don't put all your eggs in one basket,

Remember the scumbag couple that stole from bank safety deposit boxes and was found not guilty in a s**t show trial in Cyprus.

https://archive.cyprus-mail.com/2016/02/06/remand-extended-for-safety-deposit-box-theft-suspect/

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/news/couple-in-money-fraud-case-suddenly-off-the-hook

I've also heard of disappearing items from bank safety deposit boxes in Panama.
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If you trust any bank with your valuables you deserve to be robbed.

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fc70 said:
If you want to own physical gold don't put all your eggs in one basket,

Remember the scumbag couple that stole from bank safety deposit boxes and was found not guilty in a s**t show trial in Cyprus.

https://archive.cyprus-mail.com/2016/02/06/remand-extended-for-safety-deposit-box-theft-suspect/

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/news/couple-in-money-fraud-case-suddenly-off-the-hook

I've also heard of disappearing items from bank safety deposit boxes in Panama.
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I'd say anything is possible in Panama, even stuff disappearing from your safety deposit box. For all the criticism about the EU or Europe, that kind of thing just doesn't happen in places like Monaco, Switzerland, or Germany.
 
Has there ever been hyperinflation in gold or gold backed currency in history? The answer is yes. It (in part) brought down the Spanish Habsburgs. There are changing tastes in the west with respect to gold jewelry but don't forget that India represents approximately 25% of the global market share and it continues to grow. China and India represent 60% of the gold jewelry market. The Arab world is another significant consumer. The metal also has use in industrial and electronic applications. It's neither doom nor a panacea to all potential problems with fiat currency. It's another asset class subject to market forces and nothing more.

Do you trust your ability to secure, transport, and convert it, or do you trust legal frameworks around third party custody? I wouldn't want to try to fly out of Africa (or the US, for that matter) with a case full of gold bars. Much prefer certificates with proof of Swiss custody. On the other hand, I wouldn't trust a Cypriot dog sitter to watch the neighbor's dog that barks all night and that I want to die, much less trust a Cypriot bank with anything valuable after the 2013 fiasco.

Bitcoin is, for now, also just another asset class subject to market forces. It's priced in dollars or euros, after all.
 
fc70 said:
If you want to own physical gold don't put all your eggs in one basket,

Remember the scumbag couple that stole from bank safety deposit boxes and was found not guilty in a s**t show trial in Cyprus.

https://archive.cyprus-mail.com/2016/02/06/remand-extended-for-safety-deposit-box-theft-suspect/

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/news/couple-in-money-fraud-case-suddenly-off-the-hook

I've also heard of disappearing items from bank safety deposit boxes in Panama.
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You can read and hear a lot on the wonderful Internet. I have done it all at my own, yes from reading the Internet, but all the nonsense posted by users obviously have never owned anything useful, is annoying. Gold can be kept in many ways, physical, crypto and ETF make your choice.
 
fc70 said:
If you want to own physical gold don't put all your eggs in one basket,

Remember the scumbag couple that stole from bank safety deposit boxes and was found not guilty in a s**t show trial in Cyprus.

https://archive.cyprus-mail.com/2016/02/06/remand-extended-for-safety-deposit-box-theft-suspect/

https://knews.kathimerini.com.cy/en/news/couple-in-money-fraud-case-suddenly-off-the-hook

I've also heard of disappearing items from bank safety deposit boxes in Panama.
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no wonder, how can you even provide adequate proof for this? Lets say your cash or watch is missing, whats an adequate proof?
The "best" thing would be many other customers got hit at the same time, so youre not the only one reports missing stuff.
 
HardRJones said:
Better imaginary but the fiction be salable than real but in the grasping clutches of CBP in the name of asset forfeiture.
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Why not trade CME GC futures then? Highly regulated, very liquid, tradeable on the Globex, leverage possible, accessible through every major broker, mini version available. You can also take delivery of the real thing if you want.

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JohnnyDoe said:
Why not trade CME GC futures then? Highly regulated, very liquid, tradeable on the Globex, leverage possible, accessible through every major broker, mini version available. You can also take delivery of the real thing if you want.
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All of these and more are valid options, from bar in hand to futures. Use the appropriate tool for the job.
 
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