you are the boy working for Schrödinger's guy 😵 did he buy you the silver subscription so you could afford it?
What happened to TurnedToRobot2?
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Schrödinger’s Guy: The TurnedToRobot2 Conspiracy
They say the best lies are built on half-truths, or maybe just paranoia dressed up in patterns. I don’t claim to know exactly what’s going on, and none of this is based on hard evidence. But sometimes, when enough strange things line up, you start to wonder. This is just one version of the picture, a personal sense of how something feels rather than what’s been proven. Still, once you’ve looked at it long enough, it’s hard to unsee.
He called himself TurnedToRobot2, a username so bland it could be anyone, yet over time, it became synonymous with encrypted whispers, vanishing messages, and that uneasy feeling you get when something doesn’t add up. On the surface, he was just another user on OffshoreCorpTalk. But to those paying attention, something felt off. Like watching a game being played in a room where you’re not sure who’s dealing the cards.
They called him Schrödinger’s Guy, both trusted and traitor until the box was opened, and by then, it was too late.
The Digital Alchemist
Johnny wasn’t flashy. That’s what made him effective. He offered just enough to seem legitimate, fake passports that looked real enough to pass casual scrutiny, forged invoices with proper formatting, “private” channels to convert crypto into fiat without questions.
He never bragged. He suggested. He left trails, not maps. And when people tried to ask how he pulled it all off, he deflected, with charm, vagueness, or technical jargon no one could verify.
Maybe he was just really good at his craft. Or maybe… he had help.
The Shadow Behind the Help
Some users who worked with him, or even just interacted, started facing serious heat. Audits. Frozen accounts. Quiet knocks from tax authorities. You start to wonder: was Johnny really trying to help people... or identify them?
Rumors swirled. IRS? HMRC? A front for a three-letter agency? Nobody knew. There was no proof, there never is. But enough people whispered it, and a few started to disappear from the forum. No goodbye. No trace.
It could all be coincidence. It probably is.
Unless it’s not.
The Session Web
Johnny built something beyond OCT. He pulled users into Session chats, private channels where rules were fuzzier and loyalties murkier. Some of those users, the ones you now see defending him on the forum, seem almost coordinated. Paid? Influenced? Maybe just true believers.
Their timing was always perfect. They knew when to speak, when to shift blame, when to cry censorship. None of this is provable, of course. But when you watch long enough, patterns emerge.
Eroding from Within
What makes someone dangerous on a forum like OCT isn't that they scam, it’s that they sow doubt. Undermine trust. Distract from legitimate services while subtly promoting their own.
Johnny’s influence wasn’t loud. It was strategic. And by the time you realized your reputation was tied to his name, it was already too late to back out clean.
That’s the thing about plausible deniability: it works both ways.
The Real Trap
Most who used him got exactly what they paid for, at first. That’s what made him so effective. Success creates trust. Trust creates silence. And silence? That’s the perfect shield for someone playing a deeper game.
I’m not saying TurnedToRobot2 is working for the state. I’m not saying he’s a scammer, either. I’m saying… the truth might be both. Or neither. That’s the trap of Schrödinger’s Guy, until you look inside, he’s whatever you want him to be.
But if the box ever opens, just hope your name isn’t inside it.
They say the best lies are built on half-truths, or maybe just paranoia dressed up in patterns. I don’t claim to know exactly what’s going on, and none of this is based on hard evidence. But sometimes, when enough strange things line up, you start to wonder. This is just one version of the picture, a personal sense of how something feels rather than what’s been proven. Still, once you’ve looked at it long enough, it’s hard to unsee.
He called himself TurnedToRobot2, a username so bland it could be anyone, yet over time, it became synonymous with encrypted whispers, vanishing messages, and that uneasy feeling you get when something doesn’t add up. On the surface, he was just another user on OffshoreCorpTalk. But to those paying attention, something felt off. Like watching a game being played in a room where you’re not sure who’s dealing the cards.
They called him Schrödinger’s Guy, both trusted and traitor until the box was opened, and by then, it was too late.
The Digital Alchemist
Johnny wasn’t flashy. That’s what made him effective. He offered just enough to seem legitimate, fake passports that looked real enough to pass casual scrutiny, forged invoices with proper formatting, “private” channels to convert crypto into fiat without questions.
He never bragged. He suggested. He left trails, not maps. And when people tried to ask how he pulled it all off, he deflected, with charm, vagueness, or technical jargon no one could verify.
Maybe he was just really good at his craft. Or maybe… he had help.
The Shadow Behind the Help
Some users who worked with him, or even just interacted, started facing serious heat. Audits. Frozen accounts. Quiet knocks from tax authorities. You start to wonder: was Johnny really trying to help people... or identify them?
Rumors swirled. IRS? HMRC? A front for a three-letter agency? Nobody knew. There was no proof, there never is. But enough people whispered it, and a few started to disappear from the forum. No goodbye. No trace.
It could all be coincidence. It probably is.
Unless it’s not.
The Session Web
Johnny built something beyond OCT. He pulled users into Session chats, private channels where rules were fuzzier and loyalties murkier. Some of those users, the ones you now see defending him on the forum, seem almost coordinated. Paid? Influenced? Maybe just true believers.
Their timing was always perfect. They knew when to speak, when to shift blame, when to cry censorship. None of this is provable, of course. But when you watch long enough, patterns emerge.
Eroding from Within
What makes someone dangerous on a forum like OCT isn't that they scam, it’s that they sow doubt. Undermine trust. Distract from legitimate services while subtly promoting their own.
Johnny’s influence wasn’t loud. It was strategic. And by the time you realized your reputation was tied to his name, it was already too late to back out clean.
That’s the thing about plausible deniability: it works both ways.
The Real Trap
Most who used him got exactly what they paid for, at first. That’s what made him so effective. Success creates trust. Trust creates silence. And silence? That’s the perfect shield for someone playing a deeper game.
I’m not saying TurnedToRobot2 is working for the state. I’m not saying he’s a scammer, either. I’m saying… the truth might be both. Or neither. That’s the trap of Schrödinger’s Guy, until you look inside, he’s whatever you want him to be.
But if the box ever opens, just hope your name isn’t inside it.
Exactly, that’s the dangerous part.
When people get what they want at first, it builds trust, and trust is what keeps them quiet, until it’s too late.
You’re right, TurnedToRobot2 could be either or neither, but it’s the uncertainty that makes him so risky. Once the truth comes out, though, it might be a lot harder to get away clean.
When people get what they want at first, it builds trust, and trust is what keeps them quiet, until it’s too late.
You’re right, TurnedToRobot2 could be either or neither, but it’s the uncertainty that makes him so risky. Once the truth comes out, though, it might be a lot harder to get away clean.
Ok, but then why you did not warn us here:
https://www.offshorecorptalk.com/threads/the-experts-on-offshorecorptalk-here-is-your-list.34898/
https://www.offshorecorptalk.com/threads/the-experts-on-offshorecorptalk-here-is-your-list.34898/
I appreciate the attention, and I’ll get him deleted immediately. Just to clarify, he was a lifetime member, and as mentioned in my initial post in the thread, these are just assumptions. Why not? Those who’ve been caught don’t exactly come forward either. Let’s consider this a lesson learned.
Your transparency is much appreciated here.
Maybe I am the alone here, maybe not. But is there solid proof of anybody that got caught? And do we know if there are any agent provocateurs here?
Maybe I am the alone here, maybe not. But is there solid proof of anybody that got caught? And do we know if there are any agent provocateurs here?
I don't think @daniels27 meant any harm. You are both, IMHO, very valuable contributions to this forum and long may it be so. And you also do it without belittling, harassing or outright mocking or threatening other users here, let alone seeking much of the dreaded ego-trips that sometimes abound in here. To me, that gives it the extra bonus some of us do really appreciate.
Kudos to you.
NVO
Kudos to you.
NVO
@Nicholas Van Orton yes, no any offense, harm anything intended in my posts above. My "why you did not warn us here" was to be read in relation to uplana's long post and bountymounty's questioning post below. Maybe as an acknowledgement of bountymounty's surpise and as a reminder that he is still listed as expert to be trustes elsewhere which may be adjusted.
As stated before, I have no issues with anybody here. If anybody has bad feelings about me, please send me a PM!
I have become aware that TurnedToRobot2 did have issues with me. But they were not reciprocated. I would have preferred him to stay. But apparently, he pressured OCT to ban several users. It was him who caused those behaviour rules on OCT. I guess, he digged his own grave.
Guys, be nice to each other and if you have an issue, you may want to send a PM and sort it out bilaterally.
As stated before, I have no issues with anybody here. If anybody has bad feelings about me, please send me a PM!
I have become aware that TurnedToRobot2 did have issues with me. But they were not reciprocated. I would have preferred him to stay. But apparently, he pressured OCT to ban several users. It was him who caused those behaviour rules on OCT. I guess, he digged his own grave.
Guys, be nice to each other and if you have an issue, you may want to send a PM and sort it out bilaterally.
I’ve always had a bad feeling about the guy with his few-word comments. It started with Bitcoin a year ago, and anyone who spoke against it would get an immediate reaction from him.
Those who had a solution that didn’t match what he was secretly offering would get a negative response, often wrapped up in a polite way.
His middle name should be Houdini, not mine. The guy is a psychopath and a master manipulator, even in cyberspace, I’ll give him credit for that. But it’s extremely dangerous.
That’s why I believe in the "uplana theory" mentioned above.
Those who had a solution that didn’t match what he was secretly offering would get a negative response, often wrapped up in a polite way.
His middle name should be Houdini, not mine. The guy is a psychopath and a master manipulator, even in cyberspace, I’ll give him credit for that. But it’s extremely dangerous.
That’s why I believe in the "uplana theory" mentioned above.
I was genuinely interested about who the guy is (and never seriously thought about LE), and did my somewhat exagerated and provocative thread cause I thought it would bring the guy to react and disclose something, or maybe contact me, it didnt have any precise intent actually. As did other users who posted here I also admired him. Now guy is gone because of what seems to me as his ego (ah this Mediterranean temperament, misunderstood by all other cultures) crossed the wrong people's nerves.
Now my 2 favorite users and the reason I was here so long (lost access to my previous account @lmd95) @jafo and him are gone. As we say in my second homeland (I'm married to a Greek ...) "mas eprixes" (it's an exclamation of anger and disappointment at the same time that can't be properly translated, I think admin edited my post to remove it but I cant express my feelings with the same intensity with any English sentence. Please let me know if it's still not acceptable admin, thanks and have a nice day.)
Now my 2 favorite users and the reason I was here so long (lost access to my previous account @lmd95) @jafo and him are gone. As we say in my second homeland (I'm married to a Greek ...) "mas eprixes" (it's an exclamation of anger and disappointment at the same time that can't be properly translated, I think admin edited my post to remove it but I cant express my feelings with the same intensity with any English sentence. Please let me know if it's still not acceptable admin, thanks and have a nice day.)
I have only positive things to say about him. I've known him for quite some time, and in my opinion, it's not so much that he needs OCT, but rather that OCT needs him. He has consistently been a voice of reason and has always been willing to help others.
Personally, he has helped me, and many others make significant gains, while also steering us away from poor advice that unfortunately still circulates on this forum. His insights have been invaluable.
I strongly believe his ban should be reconsidered. I'm certainly not the only one who remained active here because of the contributions from Johnny and Jafo. Their posts have become iconic, serving as a reliable source of knowledge and guidance for many of us in the younger generation.
Personally, he has helped me, and many others make significant gains, while also steering us away from poor advice that unfortunately still circulates on this forum. His insights have been invaluable.
I strongly believe his ban should be reconsidered. I'm certainly not the only one who remained active here because of the contributions from Johnny and Jafo. Their posts have become iconic, serving as a reliable source of knowledge and guidance for many of us in the younger generation.
For someone who defends TurnedToRobot2 and supports his tactics of blackmail, undermining the forum, and his various attempts to push his agenda here on OCT, I have no doubts about what you're suggesting.
We have plenty of damaging information about him, and your recent attempt to help and work with him against OCT does not reflect well on you, I’m afraid. We don’t need TurnedToRobot2 here on OCT, and we know that he has made at least a small fortune off the users here. So, let's be clear, who really needs whom? If he truly didn’t care, he wouldn’t put so much effort into trying to come back. He uses propaganda methods and infiltration, which we have evidence of. That's why he will never return.
As for those who think it's acceptable to attempt to destroy others' work and livelihoods, we don’t need them here either. They are welcome to take TurnedToRobot2 by the hand, form their own group, and have a pat on the back when he speaks. Let's see if they suddenly find themselves dealing with tax authorities.
We have plenty of users here on OCT who have held back because of him, users with as much, if not more, experience than him. We have professionals here who know much more than someone whose house has been raided five times by local tax authorities, whose bank accounts get closed faster than they can open them, and who only cares about Bitcoin.
With that, I’ll end this here. Those who are TurnedToRobot2 fans, we don’t need you on OCT. You can stay, but don’t think for a second that you’ll be running his agenda here.
We have plenty of damaging information about him, and your recent attempt to help and work with him against OCT does not reflect well on you, I’m afraid. We don’t need TurnedToRobot2 here on OCT, and we know that he has made at least a small fortune off the users here. So, let's be clear, who really needs whom? If he truly didn’t care, he wouldn’t put so much effort into trying to come back. He uses propaganda methods and infiltration, which we have evidence of. That's why he will never return.
As for those who think it's acceptable to attempt to destroy others' work and livelihoods, we don’t need them here either. They are welcome to take TurnedToRobot2 by the hand, form their own group, and have a pat on the back when he speaks. Let's see if they suddenly find themselves dealing with tax authorities.
We have plenty of users here on OCT who have held back because of him, users with as much, if not more, experience than him. We have professionals here who know much more than someone whose house has been raided five times by local tax authorities, whose bank accounts get closed faster than they can open them, and who only cares about Bitcoin.
With that, I’ll end this here. Those who are TurnedToRobot2 fans, we don’t need you on OCT. You can stay, but don’t think for a second that you’ll be running his agenda here.
I understand the frustration behind your message, and I won’t defend any unethical behavior, including blackmail or manipulation. That said, painting everyone who has ever interacted with or shown support for TurnedToRobot2 with the same brush isn’t fair or productive.
OCT thrives when different perspectives are discussed respectfully. It's not about siding with individuals, but about maintaining the integrity and openness of the forum. If someone has broken the rules or harmed the community, then yes, action should be taken, but based on facts, not speculation or guilt by association.
If there are legitimate concerns or evidence, they should be addressed transparently and through the proper channels, not through groupthink or mob judgment.
OCT thrives when different perspectives are discussed respectfully. It's not about siding with individuals, but about maintaining the integrity and openness of the forum. If someone has broken the rules or harmed the community, then yes, action should be taken, but based on facts, not speculation or guilt by association.
If there are legitimate concerns or evidence, they should be addressed transparently and through the proper channels, not through groupthink or mob judgment.
speculation, really, you got a WARNING! for your behavior yesterday!
How can you write so much and indirectly suggest that we don’t have evidence for what has happened, or that we didn’t have valid reasons for banning him? What position are you in to make such claims?
I completely agree that legitimate concerns or evidence should be addressed transparently and through the appropriate channels. It’s important that any issues are handled fairly and systematically, rather than through groupthink or mob mentality. A structured approach ensures clarity, accountability, and that all parties are heard.
How can you write so much and indirectly suggest that we don’t have evidence for what has happened, or that we didn’t have valid reasons for banning him? What position are you in to make such claims?
I completely agree that legitimate concerns or evidence should be addressed transparently and through the appropriate channels. It’s important that any issues are handled fairly and systematically, rather than through groupthink or mob mentality. A structured approach ensures clarity, accountability, and that all parties are heard.
Let me clarify what actually happened, since there seems to be a lot of exaggeration flying around.
Yes, TurnedToRobot2 asked me to pass along his contact info to a few people, and I did. That’s it. No blackmail, no scheming, no "agenda." I wasn’t trying to undermine OCT.
I was just doing a favor for a friend, which is something most people here have probably done at some point.
The fact that this somehow triggered a warning and accusations of infiltration is honestly more disturbing than anything I did. Are we really at the point where passing along someone’s contact info at their request gets treated like sabotage?
And let’s talk about how this came to light. If someone is digging through private DMs to piece together a narrative, maybe we should be more concerned about that behavior than mine.
I’ve been here to contribute, not to divide. If some of you have personal issues with TurnedToRobot2, deal with them directly. Don’t use me as a prop in that fight.
I didn’t question the evidence for banning TurnedToRobot2, nor did I claim you didn’t have valid reasons. What I did say is that painting everyone who’s ever interacted with him as an accomplice is unfair and I stand by that. I’m speaking from the position of someone who did a small, non-malicious favor and is now being dragged into drama I didn’t sign up for.
If we can’t even talk about maintaining fairness or avoiding guilt by association without being accused of undermining the forum, then maybe the forum’s not as open to different perspectives as we like to believe.
Glad to hear we’re in agreement, though it’s a bit ironic, considering how quickly assumptions were made about me just for passing along contact info.
Yes, TurnedToRobot2 asked me to pass along his contact info to a few people, and I did. That’s it. No blackmail, no scheming, no "agenda." I wasn’t trying to undermine OCT.
I was just doing a favor for a friend, which is something most people here have probably done at some point.
The fact that this somehow triggered a warning and accusations of infiltration is honestly more disturbing than anything I did. Are we really at the point where passing along someone’s contact info at their request gets treated like sabotage?
And let’s talk about how this came to light. If someone is digging through private DMs to piece together a narrative, maybe we should be more concerned about that behavior than mine.
I’ve been here to contribute, not to divide. If some of you have personal issues with TurnedToRobot2, deal with them directly. Don’t use me as a prop in that fight.
I didn’t question the evidence for banning TurnedToRobot2, nor did I claim you didn’t have valid reasons. What I did say is that painting everyone who’s ever interacted with him as an accomplice is unfair and I stand by that. I’m speaking from the position of someone who did a small, non-malicious favor and is now being dragged into drama I didn’t sign up for.
If we can’t even talk about maintaining fairness or avoiding guilt by association without being accused of undermining the forum, then maybe the forum’s not as open to different perspectives as we like to believe.
Glad to hear we’re in agreement, though it’s a bit ironic, considering how quickly assumptions were made about me just for passing along contact info.
Ok I think we can draw this thread to a close now. I don't want this to turn into something else especially over an ex-member 😕