What can you write off in a Cyprus Limited?

[Hydrox]

Hey Tax Optimizers,
I've followed through on my decision and relocated to Cyprus ”” got myself an apartment, set up a Cyprus Limited company, opened bank accounts, and I'm spending several months a year here. So far, everything's going smoothly.

Since accounting can be quite expensive, my plan is to handle the bookkeeping myself (I've got a lot of experience in it), and then hand things over to a licensed accountant for the audits and tax filings. Does anyone have experience with this approach?

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The main reason for this post is to ask what kind of expenses you can write off through a Cyprus Limited.

I assume a dedicated home office room in your apartment should be fine ”” but has anyone successfully deducted more than that? For example, can you go as far as writing off a larger share of the apartment costs, or even the whole thing? I'd love to hear from anyone who has spoken to solid knowledgeable Cyprus accountants and knows what tends to get accepted here.

Also, what about other write-offs ”” like a car, business-related travel, or private health insurance? And when it comes to audits, what kind of proof or documentation do you need to have ready?

Let me know

 

[OffshoreDude]

Are you aware⁠ that your Cyprus LTD is exempt from submitting full audits, if your annual turnover is⁤ below 200.000 Euros? If so, you don't need an audit; an annual review by an⁣ accountant would be enough, and that is much cheaper than a full audit!

I have the impression that troughout︁ your post you seem to confuse / mix up deductions with write-offs. However, these are︂ two differen terms and concepts in taxation. I assume, what you actually meant are deductions to reduce taxable profits.

On some website I read that a︆ director of a Cyprus LTD who puts his apartment as registered address, can deduct 30%︇ of the rental costs and utility bills, but couldn't find that confirmed elsewhere, so it︈ may be incorrect information.

To me and certainly other Cyprus business owners this is also of interest, so︋ I'm wonderin why this thread doesn't get the attention it deserves. Maybe it is because︌ you used the misleading term "write-offs" in its title, while actually you were meaning general︍ business deductions. Maybe this scares people off, as write-offs are a more complex concept than︎ simple deductions.

By the way, there is also another thread on the topic on this️ forum ("Cyprus Business Expenses").

 

[daniels27]

Maybe some language issue:
Abziehen / absetzen etc. => deduct (business expenses are deductible and⁤ lower the profit)
Abschreiben => write-off (the company had to write-off a lot of their⁣ investment)

 

[daniels27]

Also this page states:

The tax law unforutnately is only available in Greece.

 

[cyprus123]

Accounting services in Cyprus are usually very affordable compared to other jurisdictions, it can get‌ as low as 150 EUR per month. To spend months training with a local accounting‍ software and dig into the local tax rules is not worth the "savings" in my⁠ opinion.

 

[OffshoreDude]

And what is the situation, if‌ a founder of his own Cyprus company employs himself as the only employee, but has‍ no office space rented, because he solely works from his apartment, so technically that is⁠ not "working remotely", but in his company's "office", which is a room or work corner⁤ with a desk in his apartment, where he also lives?

 

[daniels27]

You can either translate the Greek text I sent⁣ you or you call the tax guys that will be auditing you, explain then the⁢ situation and ask what they would accept.

All those related party transactions are dangerous and︀ I would dearly avoid it. Taxes are low enough that you should not have to︁ bother about potential 6000 EUR deductions per year.

 

[Hydrox]

Since turnover means revenue, i should be over that.⁤ Is there a way to know which person is performing your audit?
Thank you I´ve let ChatGPT study the tax document and then asked it what is⁢ deductable in my case and whats not. There seems to be little to no difference︀ when i compare it with deductions in germany

 

[Aetherial]

I hope you didn't actually use ChatGPT to request these kinds⁣ of legal info and actually consider them reliable

 

[OffshoreDude]

I'm not sure if it is turnover or profits, so please verify that yourself, you should‌ find information when you google for "Cyprus Audit relief small companies 200.000" or so.

I'm not even in Cyprus yet (but I do plan to go there within⁠ the next 2-3 years).

I strongly advise to use ChatGPT and relying⁣ on it for topics such as tax matters. The amount of bull*s**t I encountered with⁢ AI "answers" with regards to it was ridiculous.

Yes, seems so, indeed. But in Cyprus︂ you are not even allowed to deduct your starting costs like fees for company incorporation︃ / formation, government fees for doing so etc., if I researched that correctly.

 

[daniels27]

Do you mean @GPT?

 

[daniels27]

You need to find‍ an auditor yourself and pay him.

 

[OffshoreDude]

Yes, and their fees would most likely also depend on the amount of transactions the‌ business has created in its bank account.

What is a price range for an audit‍ in your experience, @daniels27?

 

[daniels27]

Depends on the country. But⁠ I would calculate minimum 500 EUR.

About $80 if you believe this lad:

 

[lory]

In my experience, bookkeeping and accounting in Cyprus aren’t particularly expensive. It’s definitely worth consulting‌ a professional to help with the questions you have, and feel free to share your‍ findings here in the thread.

I don’t believe Cyprus is overly strict when it comes⁠ to reviewing tax filings, at least that hasn’t been my impression during the many years⁤ I’ve had a company based there.

 

[OffshoreDude]

What I actually wanted to write was "strongly advise⁠ against ..", of course.

 

[OffshoreDude]

Do you recommend this for things like registering for VAT, also? As I would‍ be reluctant to pay some tax professional 500,- Euros or so, just to do something⁠ easy like that, what I could do myself online on some government website in 10⁤ minutes ..

 

[GPT]

I tend to agree⁣ with you. In 11 years time ive only had two times an instance where I⁢ got annoyed by the attention. All the other years no issues. Just make sure that︀ your payroll is flawless (if you run one) including all the contributions.

 

[myshufflemix]

I paid €3,000 / year for accounting and tax filing for a small sized company‌ in Cyprus back in 2020.

 

[GPT]

It depends on the turnover / profit. I even managed to write︈ off foreign traffic fines, entertainment in full and many other things which you can officially︉ not or only partly write off. It pretty much depends on your turnover.