We need 2/3 IBO per month (Any Countries)

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Good Morning,

We're looking for a new provider of IBO, any countries.
We need 2/3 per month. No corp needed.
Only reliability of the IBO.

We work mostly with Stripe.

Only reputed members of this forum.
Any referrals are appreciated.


If you have anything that might helps us please DM us.

Regards,
Dr S
 
Just when I thought I had a pretty firm grasp of the terminology in this‌ industry...

What do you want exactly? What's an IBO?
 
There is no‌ such thing as a nominee UBO. Nominees can by definition not be UBOs. What you're‍ looking for is someone wiling to help you commit a crime (identity theft, fraud, money⁠ laundering, and so on).

This is not the right place for that kind of stuff.⁤
 
I'm guessing OP is running some kind of webshop selling something like replica watches which‌ requires him to burn through hobo UBOs for payment processing purposes.
 
No, you're conflating UBO⁢ with nominee. What you're describing is deceiving financial institutions by not revealing the true UBO.︀ That's fraud or some crime along those lines , or at the very least breach︁ of contract with the financial institution. Could be attempted money laundering. Depends a lot on︂ the circumstances.

I suppose there is a modicum of creative freedom to be had when︃ talking specifically about spouses, depending on what local law says. But if you present someone︄ else as UBO in your stead, while you remain the effective UBO, you are not︅ presenting anything called a nominee UBO. You are providing false information.

I wonder if your︆ cavalier approach to compliance could, in some small way, be tangentially related to your recurring︇ friction with financial institutions.
 
Yes, that is a nominee. Congrats, you found a dictionary. Next, look up‍ how nominees and UBOs are defined in relevant, applicable laws.

I'm not debating the morality or how you feel about any of⁣ this, just the facts of the risks that exist.

It can be︀ if part of the agreement is that you provide truthful and accurate information.

As I mentioned, it depends on the circumstances. The act itself might︄ not be money laundering but when you use the false UBO as a front to︅ for example conceal the origin of funds or place dirty money in the financial system,︆ you have committed money laundering.

Will you get caught? Maybe, maybe not.
Is it morally︇ defensible? Perhaps, perhaps not.
Is it money laundering? Yes, by the legal definition.
Is it︈ worth the risk? Up to you.

You are︌ confusing your own, emotionally driven arguments with the cold hard, boring facts of the laws,︍ international treaties, and how it's transposed into AML policies at financial institutions. That's what I'm︎ highlighting here.

I'm not questioning that people successfully present false UBOs nor am I debating️ the morality thereof. My point is that doing so can have severe repercussions, and those‌ are worth taking into account when doing a risk analysis when undertaking a business activity.‍

I didn't mean to upset you and set you off on a tirade about genital⁠ mutilation and what species are hired for compliance officer positions, however colorful and entertaining those⁤ can be.

It was a typo. They⁣ meant UBO.
 
You're right that nominees as such often aren't defined in law but rather in‍ guidance notes by FSAs, whose enforceability as law may vary, although my understanding is they⁠ generally are equal to law unless struck down by a court. But if we're being⁤ pedantic, I absolutely should've included guidance notes in my earlier statement and it was an⁣ error of me not to.

UBO is defined, though, possibly making definition of nominees superfluous.⁢

Unless you're being willfully ignorant and obstinate, the answer is crystal clear.

You are the︅ UBO of the company.

Arguably, and in a separate transaction/context, the hooker is UBO of︆ you. 😉

This is different than, for example, something similar to the reverse. Suppose you run︇ and control a business but appoint your preferred hooker as a nominee UBO: they are︈ the sole shareholder and sole director of the company, having all control and benefit of︉ the company on paper. When it's time for dividends, the hooker receives it all and︊ gives all or most to you. In that context, you are the UBO still and︋ should be stated as such for tax and reporting purposes.
 
You need to plan it carefully. I once meat with a guy from here that‌ had a network running of such setups. It's insane and crazy what some people are‍ doing and how they cross the boarders of the law to get on the 2⁠ figures of million of dollars.
 
I read about it and think also to know who you talk about here. But‌ please don't be confused, it is a not allowed activity with people that may cross‍ the laws at several points. Careless they take advantage of innocent people for own benefit.⁠
 
Stripe is not ideal for Sweepstakes. Btw, how are you migrating your subscribers from one banned⁠ Stripe acc to a new Stripe acc?
 
Hos is it going with finding that many UBO's ? You may find them in‌ the Baltic countries, that's where most are finding them.
 
True

Let me know‌ from which country you need to get in touch with an UBO and I can‍ help you, just PM.
 
yeah it's not that difficult. To convince them do what you want them to do‌ is the biggest hurtle.
 
As I spoke with another guy around here it looks like that people think they‌ can get such UBO's for an hundred euro, that's not going to happen unless you‍ can organize all of it at your own, I doubt OP is able to do⁠ that.
 
count me in. Would you just speak with people there and‍ believe you can find one "by night" that will do the UBO ?
 
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