Data is the New Gold?
Yeaah I agree it is, but the Sheiks have lot of money and Gold what more they want.
There is 9% CT starting in 2023 and you need to have audited records to pay 0% CT.
Greed?bubbledouble said:
Yeaah I agree it is, but the Sheiks have lot of money and Gold what more they want.
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So far the announcement - I guess to pitch soon - if not already happened some service around it - good upsell from there side.bedouin said:
Hi guys,
We were told IFZA would be requiring full audits for companies starting this 2023. Is this true? @Fred or anyone?
Thank you.
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So its official?Fred said:
So far the announcement - I guess to pitch soon - if not already happened some service around it - good upsell from there side.
We launch a service around audit only when everything is clear and confirmed.
We personal hate this announcements with a lot of noise and nothing is clear.
Wait a bit or you can run around and make yourself crazy - the last thing never made sense so far in the UAE.
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It would be for 2023, not 2022, which is still bad indeed. I'd still love for someone to actually confirm though. I did call them on the phone and they said no. But in Dubai, no one knows anything. Not knowing is not a bad thing, it's normal, problem is when you categorically reply saying something as if you knew what you're saying, but deep down youre clueless. Thats' where things get dangerous and misguiding.turtle said:
If IFZA going to require this at the last minute(since we're already in 2023) then it is pretty bad management of IFZA.
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2023 is still late IMO because it's already 2023. It is better to announce that kind of change one year in advance...bedouin said:
It would be for 2023, not 2022, which is still bad indeed. I'd still love for someone to actually confirm though. I did call them on the phone and they said no. But in Dubai, no one knows anything. Not knowing is not a bad thing, it's normal, problem is when you categorically reply saying something as if you knew what you're saying, but deep down youre clueless. Thats' where things get dangerous and misguiding.
@Fred seems to know his stuff 😉
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Wrong - IFZA is build 100% on B2B approach.turtle said:
2023 is still late IMO because it's already 2023. It is better to announce that kind of change one year in advance...
IFZA is losing its attraction. You can form a company in Sharjah SHAMS freezone with half of a price. Their customer service is better and they have an online portal. You can do anything without dealing with customer service but IFZA you have to send an e-mail for your requests and they're pretty slow. They don't have an online portal and it's 2023. If you want the best without thinking, it is DMCC and more expensive than IFZA but certainly worth it.
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I have multiple FZ companies in UAE including IFZA and IFZA's customer support is pretty bad. They even don't have an online portal. You can find an online portal in Sharjah based freezones or even Ajman. You have to send an email like in 2010 to IFZA and wait for a reply and send another email and wait for another reply... Their customer service also makes many mistakes. You have to complain sometimes to get your work done. This is how IFZA works. Is it cheap? Yes but you get what you pay for.
DMCC is more expensive than other freezones in UAE but at the same time, it is the most popular. There should be a reason, right? There are more than 100K people who live, work in DMCC.Fred said:
DMCC - without thinking - good joke - you have to write a 10 page Business Plan to even get the License Application through.
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Wrong. As long as you have Ejari and non-high risk business, you can easily open a Mashreq Bank account with MashreqNeoBiz or Wio or SIB. Mashreq is SHAMS's official banking partner. That's how I opened Mashreq bank account to my SHAMS company.Fred said:
Hands down once the UAE Bottom Line of Banks stops working for SHAMS Companies - you are screwed - as no ENBD, ADCB, FAB or ADIB is onboarding a SHAMS Company in 2023.
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You don't even need an ejari for mashreqneobiz.turtle said:
I have multiple FZ companies in UAE including IFZA and IFZA's customer support is pretty bad. They even don't have an online portal. You can find an online portal in Sharjah based freezones or even Ajman. You have to send an email like in 2010 to IFZA and wait for a reply and send another email and wait for another reply... Their customer service also makes many mistakes. You have to complain sometimes to get your work done. This is how IFZA works. Is it cheap? Yes but you get what you pay for.
I understand that you're an IFZA partner and you're promoting them but they're facts. I'm not saying IFZA is a bad choice if you literally need to save $2-3k USD per year. It is cheap but don't expect good service.
DMCC is more expensive than other freezones in UAE but at the same time, it is the most popular. There should be a reason, right? There are more than 100K people who live, work in DMCC.
Their pricing also is not significantly higher than other freezones. They have 3 year package and it is only 8700 USD per year with a flexi desk and visa or 1 year package is for 10600 USD.
Wrong. As long as you have Ejari and non-high risk business, you can easily open a Mashreq Bank account with MashreqNeoBiz or Wio or SIB. Mashreq is SHAMS's official banking partner. That's how I opened Mashreq bank account to my SHAMS company.
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Like mentioned earlier - IFZA is build B2B - so it's a difference if you as one of 30.000 Clients approach them or if you come through a recognized Professional Partner like DLS.turtle said:
I have multiple FZ companies in UAE including IFZA and IFZA's customer support is pretty bad. They even don't have an online portal. You can find an online portal in Sharjah based freezones or even Ajman. You have to send an email like in 2010 to IFZA and wait for a reply and send another email and wait for another reply... Their customer service also makes many mistakes. You have to complain sometimes to get your work done. This is how IFZA works. Is it cheap? Yes but you get what you pay for.
I understand that you're an IFZA partner and you're promoting them but they're facts. I'm not saying IFZA is a bad choice if you literally need to save $2-3k USD per year. It is cheap but don't expect good service.
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Again - like mentioned earlier - bottomline Banks - WIO has signed an AED Correspondence Bank Agreement with Citibank and is processing outgoing Transfers at 1% through Wise - an EMI.turtle said:
Wrong. As long as you have Ejari and non-high risk business, you can easily open a Mashreq Bank account with MashreqNeoBiz or Wio or SIB. Mashreq is SHAMS's official banking partner. That's how I opened Mashreq bank account to my SHAMS company.
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That's not true - keep your postion - if this is your position - no issue for us but we feel sorry for the guys following something like this and then ending in the nowhere.Javibs69 said:
You don't even need an ejari for mashreqneobiz.
A virtual office tenancy contract is enough.
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I opened my bank account like that for a RAKEZ company 1 week ago.Fred said:
Like mentioned earlier - IFZA is build B2B - so it's a difference if you as one of 30.000 Clients approach them or if you come through a recognized Professional Partner like DLS.
That's the point.
Again - like mentioned earlier - bottomline Banks - WIO has signed an AED Correspondence Bank Agreement with Citibank and is processing outgoing Transfers at 1% through Wise - an EMI.
So if you are running a 100k$/month turnover Business you gonna pay 500-1000$ - but good you saved initially 2000-3000$ with your SHAMS Company.
That's not true - keep your postion - if this is your position - no issue for us but we feel sorry for the guys following something like this and then ending in the nowhere.
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Consultants told me its already mandatory, not in the sense that you have to publish it every year, but in the sense that for liquidating your fz you would need audits anyways on all past years ?bedouin said:
Hi guys,
We were told IFZA would be requiring full audits for companies starting this 2023. Is this true? @Fred or anyone?
Thank you.
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WIO is the easiest way. You can open with Mashreqneo Biz or SIB. Rakbank is also another alternative but as far as I know, their service quality is very bad.Fred said:
Again - like mentioned earlier - bottomline Banks - WIO has signed an AED Correspondence Bank Agreement with Citibank and is processing outgoing Transfers at 1% through Wise - an EMI.
So if you are running a 100k$/month turnover Business you gonna pay 500-1000$ - but good you saved initially 2000-3000$ with your SHAMS Company.
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If IFZA is build B2B then they should focus on B2B. They run marketing campaigns to attract clients but the service quality is bad. I remember your previous responses about business in Dubai. I'm pretty sure you offer good all in one packages(which is very important) to your customers but IFZA should invest their business to increase service quality.Fred said:
Like mentioned earlier - IFZA is build B2B - so it's a difference if you as one of 30.000 Clients approach them or if you come through a recognized Professional Partner like DLS.
That's the point.
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