UAE clarification of Freezone Qualifying Income

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I still think something like a US LLC with a nominee director can work well‌ with UAE residency, especially for digital nomads.
Then you just pay out "dividends" (not a‍ salary), the UAE would never know or care if you don't have local clients.
Seems to me like a cleaner solution than registering a UAE branch and paying a high⁠ salary to avoid the CIT.
But that's if you want to live in Dubai or⁤ need a tax residency certificate. Otherwise, as a nomad, it might be easier to just⁣ go with something like Paraguay or Thailand.

The UAE is a regulatory nightmare. You see⁢ it already with how they introduced the corporate tax.
I know someone who used to︀ have a company in a very popular freezone. When he tried to close it, he︁ had to sign papers stating that he was taking over all of the company's liabilities︂ as his personal risk. Uhm, what's the point with a limited liability company again? And︃ before they closed it, they had some organizational change, which should have brought the fees︄ down (I don't remember exactly, something like 2 instead of 3 shareholders) - "No, once︅ you are on the higher fee level, we never lower our fees again"
That's the︆ kind of stuff you have to deal with. So even if you can still avoid︇ taxes by paying a high salary, I would think twice if there's not some other︈ way to set things up.
The UAE is a great country to live in -︉ and a terrible country to do business in. I mean, rents are still paid with︊ cheques...
 
What is the meaning of freezone? You are free to⁠ decide to use them or not

Why would an offshore company with nominee and︃ dividend payout a solution against the 9% corporate income tax to earn the profits?

Hungary at 9% corp tax and no withholding tax︄ on dividends
 
You mean a nominee manager? as us llc doesn't︌ have directors.
How would it matter if the income is dividends or pass through income?︍ I assume you can call it dividends from the llc, while irs wouldn't view it︎ as dividends, but UAE might accept it as dividends if the llc papers call it️ dividends. However would you have to tell UAE about this income?
What would be the‌ issue if you call it salary?
 
That would be an absolute no-go for me. The new tax rules are in⁠ fact a hidden liability because nobody understands exactly whether and how they apply to their⁤ business. These rules can theoretically be changed retroactively by ministerial decree together with the rate.⁣ So, everyone closing a company there better leaves the country or might face jail if⁢ he cannot or doesn't want to pay retroactive tax bills.
 
The prohibition of retroactivity in law is part of the principle of predictability in any‌ civilized country. Every civilized country has a ban on legal retroactivity enshrined in the basics‍ of law (many even in the constitution). A country that announces tax regulations during the⁠ current tax year is legally unstable and unsuitable for business.
 
what a ginormous amount of crap

Ive been using UAE as my banking center for‌ a minute but tbh this is getting retarded. All this crap + the turbo loops‍ Ive to go through to cash out crypto are making this place stink.

Imma open⁠ an account at UOB/DBS and move back to Thailand permanently.
 
Tomato tomato 😉

At least on paper, the UAE now has⁤ rules similar to high-tax Western countries: A company that is effectively managed from the UAE⁣ is tax resident in the UAE and has to pay 9% corporate income tax.
This would make it easier to explain that the company isn't managed from the UAE.

Look at this thread. There is no clear information on anything.
The only thing that is⁢ relatively clear still is that there is no requirement to declare passive investment income.

If you receive a salary as a UAE resident, couldn't that be interpreted as you working︀ from the UAE? Maybe you're managing the company from the UAE?
Even if you aren't︁ managing it, if you are working from the UAE, you would probably need a license︂ (which then would also trigger corporate tax).
I bet most people here are unaware, but︃ even if you just want to start selling stuff on eBay, you need to get︄ an ecommerce license in the UAE.
 
Indeed, as a Thai resident cashing out crypto to an offshore bank account‌ is for now a cost-effective and headache-less option.
If it's your case, was it easy‍ to achieve priority banking with UOB/DBS/SC/Citi... (I assume in SG but could be in HK⁠ as well) having (clean) crypto as source of funds? How much money did you have⁤ to park/invest there?
 
This is xoredt

This is indeed the case if you are a resident or citizen from︀ a non agressive jurisdiction. If you have ties with the EU or US it becomes︁ much more complex and those countries agressively go after someone if they believe that person︂ owns them tax (and they believe that rapidly) .

An EU citizen setting-up something in︃ Hong Kong, Dubai or other tax heavens is assumed by EU tax authorities to do︄ so with the sole purpose to avoid/evade taxes. So in this case you better make︅ sure you have substance and you actually live in Hong Kong, UAE and/or have no︆ ties with EU anymore, which means you have an actual real (not just paper) residence︇ and vital interest outside EU in a non tax aggressive jurisdiction.
 
US LLC which is considered to be a tax︅ resident in UAE will be considered as a local partnership. Even almost no one uses︆ it, this structure exists in UAE law. Partnership is tax transparent in the UAE. All︇ profits will be considered as business profit of the sole proprietors. Even non licensed sole︈ proprietor working in the UAE will be taxed by a CIT.
So, US LLC will︉ be not taxes in the UAE itself. All profits will be considered as business source︊ profit of the partners which will be taxed in the UAE.
 
I own a holding company in a Dubai free zone that owns properties in my‌ home country in Western Europe.

The UAE company currently pays 25% tax on these rents‍ in my home country. Is it also liable now to a further 9% tax in⁠ Dubai?
 
In Germany we︄ have a wording for something like your post:

"Keep the church in the village".

We are settled since years not only on the business side but on the personal side︅ as well in Dubai and this won't change anytime soon.

Not sure what you think︆ how many millions we are paying for supporting the Forum but we are fine -︇ don't worry - we don't need to sell anything to anyone.

I don't know why︈ there is sometimes so much negative energy involved especially against us and me as a︉ person while in fact hundreds of people with our content provided here got settled in︊ the UAE the past 3 years.

It's just fair that we earned something from it︋ as well and in return we gave more and more back here.

If your mentioned︌ KPI's here on your profile are correct - you are 41 and from Europe -︍ I expect something different from someone in your age.

Second that - exactly︀ what I mentioned in my earlier post.

Keeping a cool head and seeing things rational.︁
 
I have to agree with @Fred here. We are︅ all jumping to conclusions and he's on the ground and he's still not clear as︆ to what is going on or what all this means. Any solution we adopt must︇ work for our particular circumstances. There's no size fits all in this industry.

#Bingo!
The government profits EVEN︈ when they make mistakes or lies. You and I would have to hire lawyers to︉ defend us. So, e.g. we would have to withdraw money from our investments in Singapore︊ (for example) to pay e.g. a lawyer in the UK who then ends up paying︋ his taxes (+35%) to the UK government. Even when the government makes a HUGE mistake,︌ they STILL profit and NOBODY seems to bat an eye at this. How this is︍ lost on most people, blows my f*cking mind!
 
We understand. You are advertising a charitable activity here.︅ And of the hundreds of thousands of dollars a year you earn from it, you︆ donate it all to charitable purposes and you have absolutely no reason to hide the︇ truth that would ruin an activity from which you have nothing. Or would it be︈ completely different?
 
Just got a reply.

"The corporate income tax in the UAE , might cause some more attention to tax related︅ issues, the fully understand the impact we need to understand your personal background. In general︆ we want to point out that the corporate income tax rate for free zone companies︇ is zero."

Meeting them tomorrow in person - keeping you posted

To be continued.
 
Who did this reply come from? The Federal Tax Authority? If it was the freezone,‌ what authority do they have to make such statements? Honestly curious.
 
Start writing a complete truth.
Freezone company is not tax free if:
- Company does not have a real office
- Company does not have a real staff
- More than half of decisions of director/directors⁣ is made outside of UAE
- More than half of suppliers are from outside of⁢ UAE
- Company is formed for tax optimization only
- Company has customers in UAE︀ which are not in a freezone (mainland customers)

No freezone has authority to set any︁ tax rules. Rules are set by the law only. Federal tax authority can issue explanatory︂ acts.

I understand that the most of your customers are people who just form a︃ company in IFZA by using your service, obtain visa, open bank account and use it︄ all for tax fraud in a high tax country or at least wealth hidding. The︅ most of them just use it for crypto withdrawal to fiat without legal tax reporting︆ in a country where they reside in reality.

Just accept actual situatuon and say truth:︇
UAE is not willing to close eyes on all of this shady companies / residents︈ any more. I understand, it will harm your business a lot. But that is how︉ it is.

Law was published and is valid. There will be no more explanatory acts︊ from FTA nor Ministry.
Telling that there is something ubclesr is not a truth. You︋ are just trying to buy some time for your falling business this way.
 
Can you please provide‌ a link to the official UAE law you are quoting?
 
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