Traditional Bank Accounts with Dark Setup

[billythepool]

Hello All. After browsing the MG for a while and saw many articles about setting up EMIs with darks, I started to think about setting up traditional bank accounts with darks. Because many (well maybe not so many) banks accept remote application without personal visits nor video calls, it might be possible (?) Is there anyone here tried with that setup? Your opinions are welcome. Thank you.

 

[clemens]

You can forget about the setup of real bank accounts with darks. It won't work, at least not with the fake docs circulating around. If you setup an account with stolen documents it may work but chances that you get cought are high unless you know your cyber-security.

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[billythepool]

clemens said:
You can forget about the setup of real bank accounts with darks. It won't work, at least not with the fake docs circulating around. If you setup an account with stolen documents it may work but chances that you get cought are high unless you know your cyber-security.
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The question is more about an example in theory than using that trick in real life. That comes to my mind after I read a post in this forum which the poster said he was able to open CIM Banque account with darks and phone call verification (not a video call). I guess no serious businessman is stupid enough to walk into a bank in person and meet the banker with forged documents.

I like to research. Hence coming the questions. With me, everything is possible until it's proven impossible.

As a matter of fact, there are still banks which accept remote applications. If the trick works for EMIs, why it wouldn't work with such banks?

The little trick with our homeless friends will always work. Get them dressed up like businessmen, prepare the documents and even come to banks in persons. Voilà! It's much safer and cost... umm, less.

 

[clemens]

billythepool said:
I guess no serious businessman is stupid enough to walk into a bank in person and meet the banker with forged documents
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somewhere here at OCT there was posted that people walked into banks in Ukraine or nighbour countries with stolen docs and opened accounts without someone asking any questions.

There are also people that hire homless people or poor people and take them to the bank to open accounts in their name to misuse the bank accounts later, these people will not understand what they are doing. Most often these poor people are not at all prosecuted because everyone knows they didn't knew what they are doing and they live in countries where no one really cares.

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[billythepool]

billythepool said:
I guess no serious businessman is stupid enough to walk into a bank in person and meet the banker with forged documents.
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Are they serious? That's why I mentioned "no serious businessman...", if that's for testing purpose only, anyone can do the same. I know it works. Actually persons use that trick. In Poland I have seen many illegal workers with forged documents opened up their bank accounts. In UK. For individuals, there are many ways that one might be able to open a real bank account. Using forged documents is just one of the methods.

But that's for personal use. What I want to discuss here is about something more complicated which apply to most of the persons who are browsing around here on this forum - an anonymous corporate bank account.

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Most often these poor people are not at all prosecuted because everyone knows they didn't knew what they are doing and they live in countries where no one really cares.
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True! 😎

Still, I would like to hear if there is anyone who ever tried.

 

[Lelapinnoir]

Well i didnt try because i didnt find any serious banks with remote opening without video calls.
CIM asked for a video call.
If you have some banks i can give you a feedback

 

[Slipper8]

Yes can be safely and easily done in Australia. Need to use real fresh darks, I won't give away my favourite bank so it doesn't get burnt, but depending on which bank you usually need drivers licence and medicare card. These can be bought online find a good source for them - they must be fresh. Then apply and set the mailing address to any residential address inside Aus. No PO boxes, international addresses etc - just send to someone letterbox and steal it out of there is easiest way.

 

[Slipper8]

Also I will add - I have not tried with large amounts of funds yet but 5-15k size wire transfers haven't triggered any questions at all. debit card accepted everywhere etc.

 

[onemansomewhere]

clemens said:
somewhere here at OCT there was posted that people walked into banks in Ukraine or nighbour countries with stolen docs and opened accounts without someone asking any questions.

There are also people that hire homless people or poor people and take them to the bank to open accounts in their name to misuse the bank accounts later, these people will not understand what they are doing. Most often these poor people are not at all prosecuted because everyone knows they didn't knew what they are doing and they live in countries where no one really cares.
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This happens very often in Ukraine and in all eastern european countries. The major jurisdictions for this practises are Slovakia and Czech republic. In this 2 countries, each citizen can open bank account remotely. Courier just delivers papers and card anywhere within a country and checks if national ID is still valid. There are soooo many cases like this reported. I am a lawyer and I have a few clients from that countries and I am discussing situation occasionaly. All types of scam schemes are using this banking setup.

 

[billythepool]

Slipper8 said:
Yes can be safely and easily done in Australia. Need to use real fresh darks, I won't give away my favourite bank so it doesn't get burnt, but depending on which bank you usually need drivers licence and medicare card. These can be bought online find a good source for them - they must be fresh. Then apply and set the mailing address to any residential address inside Aus. No PO boxes, international addresses etc - just send to someone letterbox and steal it out of there is easiest way.
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Thank you, I never knew it works in Australia! That's something new to me.

onemansomewhere said:
This happens very often in Ukraine and in all eastern european countries. The major jurisdictions for this practises are Slovakia and Czech republic. In this 2 countries, each citizen can open bank account remotely. Courier just delivers papers and card anywhere within a country and checks if national ID is still valid. There are soooo many cases like this reported. I am a lawyer and I have a few clients from that countries and I am discussing situation occasionaly. All types of scam schemes are using this banking setup.
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CZ-Slovakia, Poland, Baltic states... it works all the time in those countries, and it still works.

Thank you all for contributing your experiences. IMO, if a situation forces someone to open a personal bank account which is not under his name, I think the best way is to politely ask a homeless friend to do it for him than risking himself walking into a bank with fogged documents, not even talking of the risks for finding right supplier for those darks. It would even cost much more than he could imagine at first.

And if he's lucky enough to get his new bank account, he shouldn't forget that the bank still save copies of his fake docs ”” yes ”” under different name but with his picture, his face. Even for remote opening, the same thing also applies. He cannot avoid that because most of the banks offers remote opening only with some sorts of verification (eg. Video calls, Netverify... etc.).

Still, out of my curiosity, I would like to know if someone even tried that setup for opening corporate bank accounts. I don't think it's impossible. Someone who is crazy enough might do it only for fun.

 

[Spinat]

Slipper8 said:
Yes can be safely and easily done in Australia. Need to use real fresh darks, I won't give away my favourite bank so it doesn't get burnt, but depending on which bank you usually need drivers licence and medicare card. These can be bought online find a good source for them - they must be fresh. Then apply and set the mailing address to any residential address inside Aus. No PO boxes, international addresses etc - just send to someone letterbox and steal it out of there is easiest way.
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I will have to look further into it, wasn't aware of the option.

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[Slipper8]

I don't really want to bother with organising fresh darks but if needed I can point people in the right direction. There's definitely no video or picture verification needed for these aus accounts. Main thing is just that the numbers on the licence and medicare checks out as they run against a government database, no need to send in a scan of it or anything. It's all just an online application fill in the boxes and send away. I have successfully setup an aus company in darks using similar methods, and got most of the way through the application for a corporate bank acct for it, however they wanted to talk to me on the phone and I never bothered calling. Was only doing it as a test and I got sidetracked with other projects. Though I think it could be done.

Australia is also a nice place to receive money from, very innocent sounding. Any questions I'm happy to help