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[gentlemen]

Hi!

I wondering if there is anyone who knows a creative way of checking your own information against SIS (Schengen Information System), except requesting the information personally from your own country you're a citizen of, due to the reason I'm not want to notify them I'm asking about it.

The reason I'm asking is due to the fact that I'm always (when traveling inside EU/EES) are being taken to the side and asked a lot of questions, like where I'm going, how long I will be staying, if I'm carrying any cash etc. But it never happens outside EU/EES countries.
And after answering all the questions, nothing happens.

Last two times it happened I asked the boarder control if there is any problem, and the officer said "there is something there, but he can't tell me what".

So I'm curious and want to see if there is any way to see if I'm registered in the SIS database, and if yes, with which information. Since it seems to be some kind of "lookup" notification on me, for some reason.

I know there is a lot of different authorities who has access to the system, mainly polices, boarder control etc., but also many others.

Thanks in advance to everyone of this amazing forum!

// GM

 

[mraleph]

gentlemen said:
Hi!

I wondering if there is anyone who knows a creative way of checking your own information against SIS (Schengen Information System), except requesting the information personally from your own country you're a citizen of, due to the reason I'm not want to notify them I'm asking about it.

The reason I'm asking is due to the fact that I'm always (when traveling inside EU/EES) are being taken to the side and asked a lot of questions, like where I'm going, how long I will be staying, if I'm carrying any cash etc. But it never happens outside EU/EES countries.
And after answering all the questions, nothing happens.

Last two times it happened I asked the boarder control if there is any problem, and the officer said "there is something there, but he can't tell me what".

So I'm curious and want to see if there is any way to see if I'm registered in the SIS database, and if yes, with which information. Since it seems to be some kind of "lookup" notification on me, for some reason.

I know there is a lot of different authorities who has access to the system, mainly polices, boarder control etc., but also many others.

Thanks in advance to everyone of this amazing forum!

// GM
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You are inquired by an official - which one - during intra-EU/intra Schengen area travel 🙄 When - as there is no identity and travel documents check? How do you know it's an entry into SIS - as it contains registries of entry bans, arrest warrants and missing persons notices - and not an INTERPOL notice - certainly not read, yellow or black ns2?

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[gentlemen]

mraleph said:
You are inquired by an official - which one - during intra-EU/intra Schengen area travel 🙄 When - as there is no identity and travel documents check? How do you know it's an entry into SIS - as it contains registries of entry bans, arrest warrants and missing persons notices - and not an INTERPOL notice - certainly not read, yellow or black ns2?
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Sorry, I was meaning when travel from a country inside EU/EES to another country (outside EU/EES).

 

[mraleph]

gentlemen said:
Sorry, I was meaning when travel from a country inside EU/EES to another country (outside EU/EES).
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Peculiar 🙄 Only outbound control - from EU/EEA towards destination outside? If you presented the facts, you have an INTERPOL blue notice or difussion. It doesn't matter that you aren't interviewed at destination outside EEA as they will inform requesting party anyway about your activities - arrival, checkins and possible even perform an opservation - surveilance.

This means that you are a suspect in an ongoing criminal investigation. Creative way with limited scope is to fetch certificate from relevant authority in your country of residence and citizenship about indictments and investigations against you. But beware that if it's in police phase, you won't get any result.

 

[gentlemen]

mraleph said:
Peculiar 🙄 Only outbound control - from EU/EEA towards destination outside? If you presented the facts, you have an INTERPOL blue notice or difussion. It doesn't matter that you aren't interviewed at destination outside EEA as they will inform requesting party anyway about your activities - arrival, checkins and possible even perform an opservation - surveilance.

This means that you are a suspect in an ongoing criminal investigation. Creative way with limited scope is to fetch certificate from relevant authority in your country of residence and citizenship about indictments and investigations against you. But beware that if it's in police phase, you won't get any result.
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Yes, that's right. But I already know there is no marks in interpol, since I've requested extraction of information from their database through a lawyer who helped me to file the requesting paper.

So this has to be connected to SIS.

But I'm interested in if there is any way to find a way to get the information about me in SIS from a country in EU/EES (outside my home country).

 

[mraleph]

gentlemen said:
Yes, that's right. But I already know there is no marks in interpol, since I've requested extraction of information from their database through a lawyer who helped me to file the requesting paper.

So this has to be connected to SIS.

But I'm interested in if there is any way to find a way to get the information about me in SIS from a country in EU/EES (outside my home country).
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I'm discussing this on an academic grounds only.

You are aware what are the reasons for scrutiny. Considering the scope of checks you described, you are probably a person for whom an allert is issued in SIS.

Maybe you do not have a notice but there may be a difussion about you in the INTERPOL.

Just like notices and difussions in INTERPOL can be corrected or removed, SIS has similar mechanism for which your lawyer should have knowledge.

Simply file a request to the authority of the country in which you have a residence - or in which you've been checked upon - and ask whether your personal data exist, which ones are stored and who filled them. Then, request either a change or removal. Do it thru prime class law office.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

Is your passport photo actual and of good quality?
Is the chip undamaged?

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[wellington]

gentlemen said:
Hi!

I wondering if there is anyone who knows a creative way of checking your own information against SIS (Schengen Information System), except requesting the information personally from your own country you're a citizen of, due to the reason I'm not want to notify them I'm asking about it.

The reason I'm asking is due to the fact that I'm always (when traveling inside EU/EES) are being taken to the side and asked a lot of questions, like where I'm going, how long I will be staying, if I'm carrying any cash etc. But it never happens outside EU/EES countries.
And after answering all the questions, nothing happens.

Last two times it happened I asked the boarder control if there is any problem, and the officer said "there is something there, but he can't tell me what".

So I'm curious and want to see if there is any way to see if I'm registered in the SIS database, and if yes, with which information. Since it seems to be some kind of "lookup" notification on me, for some reason.

I know there is a lot of different authorities who has access to the system, mainly polices, boarder control etc., but also many others.

Thanks in advance to everyone of this amazing forum!

// GM
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FYI just looking at your profile.

Somewhere i'd imagine one of your 'clients' that bought a stripe account, fell into a net, and you've been tagged (@jafo's statement about mutes et al comes to mind) and you are now likely under investigation related to money laundering facilitation.

To be fair this should be expected for selling 'stripe et al' accounts lol

 

[jafo]

gentlemen said:
Sorry, I was meaning when travel from a country inside EU/EES to another country (outside EU/EES).
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Only when you leave or also when you enter? 🙄

 

[gentlemen]

JohnnyDoe said:
Is your passport photo actual and of good quality?
Is the chip undamaged?
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Yes, its actual and good quality. And there is no "physical chip" in my passport, do you mean the biometrics? Thats undamaged and working good. And it should not be the issue, since it's only happening inside EU/EES countries.

wellington said:
FYI just looking at your profile.

Somewhere i'd imagine one of your 'clients' that bought a stripe account, fell into a net, and you've been tagged (@jafo's statement about mutes et al comes to mind) and you are now likely under investigation related to money laundering facilitation.

To be fair this should be expected for selling 'stripe et al' accounts lol
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Hehe, I'm not selling any Stripe accounts 🙂 But we're using Stripe accounts tho. So it might have something to do with that maybe, "you never know".

But it would be highly appreciated if you have any input to the thread, where the requesting "help" is for ideas to extract info from SIS.
Since with all respect, but I don't need any inputs with ideas for the reason I'm there.

jafo said:
Only when you leave or also when you enter? 🙄
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Only when leaving, nothing when I'm entering.

 

[mraleph]

gentlemen said:
Yes, its actual and good quality. And there is no "physical chip" in my passport, do you mean the biometrics? Thats undamaged and working good. And it should not be the issue, since it's only happening inside EU/EES countries.


Hehe, I'm not selling any Stripe accounts 🙂 But we're using Stripe accounts tho. So it might have something to do with that maybe, "you never know".

But it would be highly appreciated if you have any input to the thread, where the requesting "help" is for ideas to extract info from SIS.
Since with all respect, but I don't need any inputs with ideas for the reason I'm there.


Only when leaving, nothing when I'm entering.
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@JohnnyDoe may have made a typo - in strictest sense, but in the end it's a chip - and it's a physical one using RFID for communication 🙄 He asked you about the passport legitimately as you may look different compared to data and the booklet can be damaged thus triggering additional scrutiny.

Why you are registered to INTERPOL and SIS is actualy of prime importance 😎 The detail you presented about your data removal from INTERPOL databases whilst probably your data aren't removed from a SIS means that you are hot as a graphite from a nuclear reactor - you are probably - educated guess based upon what you presented - investigated by EUROPOL.

Consider EUROPOL as the FBI of the EU, an operational federal police force. INTERPOL is not an operational organization. That difference meant success for data removal from the later.

So, @jafo and @wellington implyied properly why you were registered in both systems. I offered you a legal modus to acquire and possible even correct or remove data from SIS. What else do want?

 

[wellington]

https://www.europol.europa.eu/crime-areas

 

[jafo]

gentlemen said:
Only when leaving, nothing when I'm entering.
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There's your cue””Mosey on out of here (if you can). Things may get "stickier"...if you know what I mean. hi%#

 

[wellington]

Alternative to them i suppose lol

 

[JohnnyDoe]

gentlemen said:
Yes, its actual and good quality. And there is no "physical chip" in my passport, do you mean the biometrics?
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An e-passport, recognizable by this symbol

on the cover, contains a rfid chip. https://www.dhs.gov/e-passports

gentlemen said:
Thats undamaged and working good.
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Sometimes the damage is minimal and only certain scanners fail to read it. It can also happen that it is not correctly programmed or that part of the information is missing or lost. You can check most of the data using an app and a mobile phone.
Another possibility is if for some reason the photo is not good enough, it can generate an error.

gentlemen said:
And it should not be the issue, since it's only happening inside EU/EES countries.
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It might be due to different readers used.

If we exclude physical booklet problems, you could have some minor administrative issue, for example unpaid fines.
It could also be an error with the police reporting system, for example they could have reported the wrong passport number as stolen or lost.
If it was something serious, they would either not tell you anything or arrest you on the spot.

Anyway, take this as a sign from the gods that you must leave the EU and not return.

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[jafo]

JohnnyDoe said:
Anyway, take this as a sign from the gods that you must leave the EU and not return.
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100% this without exception! I mentioned it to him! There is ALWAYS a sign.... ALWAYS! 😉

OP, listen to @JohnnyDoe. This is NOT a joke!

 

[gentlemen]

mraleph said:
@JohnnyDoe may have made a typo - in strictest sense, but in the end it's a chip - and it's a physical one using RFID for communication 🙄 He asked you about the passport legitimately as you may look different compared to data and the booklet can be damaged thus triggering additional scrutiny.

Why you are registered to INTERPOL and SIS is actualy of prime importance 😎 The detail you presented about your data removal from INTERPOL databases whilst probably your data aren't removed from a SIS means that you are hot as a graphite from a nuclear reactor - you are probably - educated guess based upon what you presented - investigated by EUROPOL.

Consider EUROPOL as the FBI of the EU, an operational federal police force. INTERPOL is not an operational organization. That difference meant success for data removal from the later.

So, @jafo and @wellington implyied properly why you were registered in both systems. I offered you a legal modus to acquire and possible even correct or remove data from SIS. What else do want?
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If you're reading my first post you can see exactly what I want, I will make a citation: “anyone who knows a creative way of checking your own information against SIS (Schengen Information System), except requesting the information personally from your own country you're a citizen of.”

So just to clarify for you, I'm asking for a way to “get checked” in another country than my own.

So the only idea you provided was to do exactly what I clearly stated I did NOT want to do.

Just please don't post if you don't have anything valuable for my question to add.

But I found a way through another forum tho

So if anybody else need the same thing: I contacted a CBI company, which had their own first check for due diligence, where that third party due diligence company are checking your name in SIS 🙂

So problem solved. Thread can be closed.

JohnnyDoe said:
An e-passport, recognizable by this symbol

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on the cover, contains a rfid chip. https://www.dhs.gov/e-passports


Sometimes the damage is minimal and only certain scanners fail to read it. It can also happen that it is not correctly programmed or that part of the information is missing or lost. You can check most of the data using an app and a mobile phone.
Another possibility is if for some reason the photo is not good enough, it can generate an error.

It might be due to different readers used.

If we exclude physical booklet problems, you could have some minor administrative issue, for example unpaid fines.
It could also be an error with the police reporting system, for example they could have reported the wrong passport number as stolen or lost.
If it was something serious, they would either not tell you anything or arrest you on the spot.

Anyway, take this as a sign from the gods that you must leave the EU and not return.
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Thanks for your input I'm already moved out from EU, but I still have family in EU/EES, and would like to get the information about what's stated in the SIS about me.

But I found a due diligence company who'a gonna check it for me now.

 

[mraleph]

gentlemen said:
If you're reading my first post you can see exactly what I want, I will make a citation: “anyone who knows a creative way of checking your own information against SIS (Schengen Information System), except requesting the information personally from your own country you're a citizen of.”

So just to clarify for you, I'm asking for a way to “get checked” in another country than my own.

So the only idea you provided was to do exactly what I clearly stated I did NOT want to do.
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Where did you read that I proposed you to contact your country of citizenship?

What I proposed was related to similar approach related to - apparently your previous - request to change or remove data from the INTERPOL databases as there is a SIS mechanism for same purpose. You could have done that thru third country - where you transited etc.

In case of INTERPOL, financial organizations are allowed access to I-checkit - service for comparing data against SLTD (stolen and lost travel documents) and TDAWN (travel documents associated with notices). But, there is no such service for accessing SIS. Hence, you are terribly misguided. The only way to get information from SIS is how I already described.

I just saw that another user, @JohnnyDoe essentialy wrote the same.

This thread and your answers implies that you are in a quite a bad situation. Truly sorry for you. But, nobody should aid and abet as that is a criminal offence per se. But learn to read and interpret what is written and don't spit out when you are unsatisfied 😉

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[JohnnyDoe]

gentlemen said:
But I found a way through another forum tho

So if anybody else need the same thing: I contacted a CBI company, which had their own first check for due diligence, where that third party due diligence company are checking your name in SIS 🙂
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Very naive. Al what “due diligence companies” do is to perform a worldcheck or similar database search and overcharge for it. No private company can have access to LE databases, anyone claiming the contrary is scamming you.
Further, you are relying on what you are being told by the “CBI company”, that is on third or fourth hand hearsay at best, or on plain lies fabricated to onboard a new client (with a non refundable dd and application fee) at worst.

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[wellington]

What's life like in a European prison these days?

Even if he were to escape - this isn't the 50s - no where to hide