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Mercury said:
It seems you invest via an IBKR individual account and hold US situs assets. If you have heirs, are you not concerned about US estate tax? How do you handle it?
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id be also pretty concerned about usa overall state and the loss of the reserve currency status.
Looking at this erratic behavior, Id say capital controls are also in the cards.
I hence am making plans to reduce holdings at ibkr to a minimum.
 
JohnnyDoe said:
I invest via a llc
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I see. Should then be a multi-member LLC since "U.S. source assets held through a single member limited liability company that is treated as a disregarded entity for U.S. tax purposes (i.e., NOT taxable as a corporation), are also subject to U.S. estate tax." (Charles Schwab).
 
Mercury said:
I see. Should then be a multi-member LLC since "U.S. source assets held through a single member limited liability company that is treated as a disregarded entity for U.S. tax purposes (i.e., NOT taxable as a corporation), are also subject to U.S. estate tax." (Charles Schwab).
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well the common fix for this is having a hold co owning the llc like bvi or smth.
But that wont help much with the incoming capital controls.
 
Mercury said:
I see. Should then be a multi-member LLC since "U.S. source assets held through a single member limited liability company that is treated as a disregarded entity for U.S. tax purposes (i.e., NOT taxable as a corporation), are also subject to U.S. estate tax." (Charles Schwab).
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This is not the appropriate place to speculate about my setup and discuss about LLC taxes. The thread is about investments.

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Why do you guys love dividends so much? You are forced to pay tax on them and account for them in reports every time you receive them.
Dividends are not magic money out of the sky. When you don't get a dividend, you get that money accumulated in share appreciation which is more beneficial long term. There is a reason Berkshire doesn't pay a dividend. It's not tax efficient.
 
Matade said:
Why do you guys love dividends so much?
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It's a way of investing. One of the benefits is that you don't have to time the market and you have regular cash flow to be allocated for other purposes (for example buying btc).
Matade said:
You are forced to pay tax on them and account for them in reports every time you receive them.
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What's the problem with that?
Matade said:
Dividends are not magic money out of the sky.
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I always pay dividends out of the companies I control, and I like when the companies I own do the same (instead of wasting all their cash on salaries, expenses and t&e).
Matade said:
When you don't get a dividend, you get that money accumulated in share appreciation
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In theory yes, which doesn't make any practical difference.
Matade said:
which is more beneficial long term.
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If you time the market correctly, perhaps. But you are not comparing apples to apples.
Matade said:
There is a reason Berkshire doesn't pay a dividend. It's not tax efficient.
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This might work for some, not for everyone.

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JohnnyDoe said:
It's a way of investing. One of the benefits is that you don't have to time the market and you have regular cash flow to be allocated for other purposes (for example buying btc).
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But how is selling a portion of stock any different?
You can also borrow against the stock you hold for daily expenses (what most HNW individuals do).
As I said, dividends are NOT magic. What you get in dividend gets excluded from stock appreciation and you are forced to essentially SELL that portion and pay tax right there and then.

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What's the problem with that?
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Problem is with dividends you are FORCED to pay tax each time you get dividend. But as you hold stock, you are not forced to pay tax. If you decide to sell stock 20 years down the line, you can find a stock efficient mechanism to do so and pay less tax.
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In theory yes, which doesn't make any practical difference.
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It does when it comes to accounting and taxing.
JohnnyDoe said:
This might work for some, not for everyone.
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Ok, fair.
 
Mercury said:
Making profits selling your assets constantly keeping your capital growing implies substantially more time, efforts and some would say "luck" than just passively harvesting scheduled dividends/interests.
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As I said, you can borrow AGAINST assets. All billionaires do this and high NW millionaires.
 
Matade said:
As I said, you can borrow AGAINST assets. All billionaires do this and high NW millionaires.
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Sure, the little prerequisite is to have at least 8 figures that you can lock for -possibly- years.
Unless what they borrow is a tiny % of their assets, not sure these people sleep well during a long-lasting bear market impacting their collateral.
 
Matade said:
But how is selling a portion of stock any different?
You can also borrow against the stock you hold for daily expenses (what most HNW individuals do).
As I said, dividends are NOT magic. What you get in dividend gets excluded from stock appreciation and you are forced to essentially SELL that portion and pay tax right there and then.


Problem is with dividends you are FORCED to pay tax each time you get dividend. But as you hold stock, you are not forced to pay tax. If you decide to sell stock 20 years down the line, you can find a stock efficient mechanism to do so and pay less tax.

It does when it comes to accounting and taxing.

Ok, fair.
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Companies paying dividends are typically more disciplined, for instance they rarely decide to create a metaverse department because they are flooded with cash.. it can also be in the form of cash buybacks..
 
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