You reopen a thread from 2016 and ask if something has changed 😵here2learn said:
@Admin Erm, has the content changed? It seems to be talking about voting etc and not Nominee Shareholders?
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happyjohn said:
Nominees (both shareholder and director) are mandatory if you want to let it look like the control and management is locally and you don't have control of the Company. Just don't tell anyone you have a PoA!
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Yes this is what I was thinking too. Good banks are very hard if not impossible to work with clients if UBO is not known.halowe9672box4mlscom said:
@happyjohn But aren't there Ultimate Beneficiary requirment for Banks? So I thought it is not possible to show fake control. Is there any way?
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halowe9672box4mlscom said:
@happyjohn But aren't there Ultimate Beneficiary requirment for Banks? So I thought it is not possible to show fake control. Is there any way?
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Nominees are dinosaurs from the past not really useful any longer if it comes to banking. You need to go at least 5 years back where it still was possible to appoint nominees and sign them for your banking needs with a PoA, that's over.Davis123 said:
Yes this is what I was thinking too. Good banks are very hard if not impossible to work with clients if UBO is not known.
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I agree dear. It was easier five or six years but Banks are facing too many challenges from regulatory agencies due to OECD/FATCA. Even if it was easier back then very hard to trust someone with a POA unless they happen to be from some highly developed western country like UK, Belgium, Germany for example as all others were very risky. Then those countries would be after those solicitors so it's better to pay taxes and file your returns with the tax man than trust anyone. Since I live in UAE there is not much they can tax here except VAT here and returns filed to US are just expensive tax returns but no taxes due on them. I am looking at moving away to some other country and move my ac into offshore banks and preferably an LLC and bank account held by a trust.Admin said:
Nominees are dinosaurs from the past not really useful any longer if it comes to banking. You need to go at least 5 years back where it still was possible to appoint nominees and sign them for your banking needs with a PoA, that's over.
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yves said:
I have appointed Nominee director and shareholder to my entity because of privacy reason. I forgot to order a PoA but that took only 30 min to get it from my agent.
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I still have this question ? How could anyone trust someone with just a power of attorney as banks wouldn't have known your identity and the appointees could have simply vanished with your funds somewhere.Admin said:
Nominees are dinosaurs from the past not really useful any longer if it comes to banking. You need to go at least 5 years back where it still was possible to appoint nominees and sign them for your banking needs with a PoA, that's over.
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Valid point but even sometimes companies like Mossack Fonsaeca got into problems with their security and an employee leaked all the confidential info. Panamagate affair is internationally known scandal that I read about years ago. Anyone reputable for years could give take off someday with your funds and even the best of secrecy there could be just one person inside that company who could steal info for heavy tip off. Better not to get into such things and simply file away pay taxes and move to tax free or territorial countries in case of EU and other countries. I think years ago there was a bank employee from a Swiss bank UBS too who after plea bargaining made a fortune by selling names of his clients all over the world.Admin said:
It is actually not that difficult if you find a credible company with a long history of people who have a good reputation then something rarely happens. Unfortunately, there are more amateurs in this market than there are professionals and these are the ones that ruin it for everyone else.
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