Thailand to where?

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JackieTsan

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Hello to all and Merry Christmas,
I know that this is a topic that have‌ discussed several times, but I'd like to take a decision especially now that the year‍ is changing.

Concept:
Thai tax resident, having one (or more) offshore companies (Seychelles, BVI, UAE⁠ all totally independend between them) servicing EU customers (IT - software - licenses etc -⁤ no hardware). Most companies have local directors, others have directors & shareholders). Income goes from⁣ company offshore account to offshore account of owner as dividends (100% shareholder, or director and⁢ shareholder).
No remitance inside Thailand at all, no cards to remit etc. Nothing gets in︀ Thailand. NO crypto etc, all are clear business IT.
The companies are not related between︁ them (maybe have same customers, and same real owner). Not doing any job between them︂ etc.
As far as I am informed from several info, accountants etc, there is no︃ any obligation to pay any Thai tax as no income ever came to Thailand, no︄ relation at all with Thailand (besides the thai tax resident owner), no customers in Thailand,︅ no remitances, no employees etc.
Some others say that can create risks for tax.
I want to be 100% safe & legal on this, that there is no tax obligation︆ and/any risk.

Questions / concerns:

1) Is that safe? Any gap here? anything to worry︇ about?
2) I see many advisors suggest HK structure (i.e. BVI owns HK and HK︈ pays the owner) - I understand this is for remitance cases which I don't care︉ at all (I don't need / want / will NOT want to remit any amount︊ in Thailand).
3) Suggestions?

Thank you all!
 
what money do you live on while in︌ Thailand? in case its not barfines 😉
 
you need some years worth of savings to live off if youre pulling off‍ the plan you outlined above.
 
My salary is enough to live,‍ no need to remit. If money for LBs finish I’ll go to Cambodia 🙂)
 
ah you have a job‍ in Thailand?
Then you pay tax on that anyhow, the rest should be ok.
 
Your solutions and way of thinking‍ are always amazing!!! Happy new year my friend, and happy new year to everyone!
 
Happy new year to you too. I think your setup is safe and legal for‌ the time being, however:
The worry would be if the new proposal to tax⁠ worldwide income regardless of remittance passes this year.

Here's a recent article on the topic:⁤ https://www.aseanbriefing.com/news/...aul-implications-for-residents-and-investors/
Enforcement may be lacking but︁ if you want a strictly legal setup you may need to reassess the dividend strategy.︂ Perhaps save them up in the company, and take one year where you spend less︃ than 180 days and pay out a larger chunk.
 
changing this will take many years, like 5 or so, especially︀ in such places.
 
there was ample talk on this here. these things⁠ are not the same.
Plus Malaysia remains as is until 2036, the easy fix is⁤ right there.
 
Can’t agree more! And Indonesia has a new visa that gives full tax exemption⁠ for four years (Japan 5 years too if you’re interested).
Yes Thailand might implement the⁤ worldwide tax very fsst; did you see getting in briks from Jan 1st, and the⁣ corporate tax too. I wonder how this will benefit Thailand but in any case it’s⁢ not my country (unfortunately), and will never be, as we can’t easily get passport, rights,︀ land, healthcare, etc.
I’ve checked several countries, so far my movement will be Malaysia immediately︁ when Thailand will announce worldwide tax. Alternative is Philippines which is amazing and extremely beautiful︂ too. Malaysia’s PM proved to be insanely clever to announce 10 years more tax exemption,︃ and I personally know many high wealthy individuals that moved last 3 weeks from Germany︄ and Switzerland to Malaysia.
 
the linked page says: "(still in development phase and without an⁤ official launch date yet)"
 
it’s active, google and search for visa agents in‍ Indonesia and chat with them, it’s up and running as many told me (the 4⁠ years visa).
 
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