Setup a company or companies to avoid costs (taxes..)

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Hi, I am new here and looking for advice about setup a company. We(I and my colleague) have experience with offshore (one Belize corp. with nominees), actually running the business on it, but with new CRS I do not feel safe. We both live in EU.

Our business is online advertising, affiliate etc. We receive around 100k per month from partners which are also mostly offshore (Seychelles, BVI, San Marino), from which we send around 80k to our clients. So profit is about 20k euros per month. We are using a lot of bank transfers (at least 50 per month - non-SEPA) so the cheap bank will be good - it makes no sense to me avoid taxes, but pay the money on fees to the bank. We also need to access bitcoin exchanges like Kraken and also will be good to use PayPal since some clients want to receive money on it. I am also thinking about opening TransferWise Borderless or RevolutBusiness account since clients prefer different currencies (we mostly sending to Russia or Indonesia).

Right now we are taking profit from the company with ATM withdrawals in a neighbor country or selling cryptocurrencies for cash (bitcoin, monero). Not sure whether it will work with CRS, or how is safe to get profit from the company. I don't know how tax office will look at it, because it is a corporate account, with no books, so they can't see the profit. No profit/no taxes?

So main goal is to keep more money in business and have good sleep at night. I can live to pay some taxes if it is necessary. I read here about "darks" but I think this is no way to go for me. I also read here about Cyprus bank - Bank of Cyprus, but i think it is useless when we have to pay 20k per year on fees.

I think about creating a free-zone company in UAE, with residency visa and bank account there (Mashreq), no nominees.
The setup costs don't matter, so I am open also to setup multiple offshore companies if needed.

Can you advise me what jurisdiction will be best for our business? What setup should we use?
 
Mark34 said:
I think about creating a free-zone company in UAE, with residency visa and bank account there (Mashreq), no nominees.
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Since you have a good budget and don't want to go the route with darks you may go with an UAE Company, it's exactly what you are looking for. Just be prepared to go there in order to setup the Company, bank account etc. You also need some sort of min. balance to be maintained by most of the banks there!

On the other hand, you could setup a Belize Company cheap, and do banking for instant in Puerto Rico or similar places.. as you already figured out, offshore banks are not cheap to use!

Great alternative for large budgets and big business is Switzerland, I my self setup a GMBH for a months ago with a real office, it's wokring out great for me.
 
Visit of UAE is not a problem, also the price and minimum balance. Are there nominee services possible too?
Maybe the problem is that I do not want to live there, because of Sharia law - i love my freedom and hate rules about how to live my life (as example with who i can or cant have sex ange¤%&).

I have to manage bank account/s, but not sure whether I can be employed for this from my nominee? What about carrying out the money from the company by the legal way?

Because I do not want to live there CRS and CFC are still potential issues, dont they?
What about CRS, when the tax office in my country gets information that I have a bank account for company XY and did not pay any taxes from that income in my country? I read the CRS, the limit is 250,000 USD at last day of the year, but there is also a thing that bank can report it anyway.

Once tax office get this information they can ask for complete bank statements(at least here inside EU) and questioned me. Not sure about CFC rules (controlled foreign company), but they will be here in my country soon. This together with CRS seems very dangerous to me.

Is Puerto Rico special for something? Currently we are using EU bank for Belizean offshore.
About Switzerland, what are the real costs - incorporation, taxes, office-virtual office, accounting etc.?

Do you have personal experience with UAE?
 
I have been with some advisors on meeting today and their advice is to setup UK company with some offshore company behind. All activity will be on UK company.
Disadvantages: accounting is necessary, pay some taxes to UK, but i forget to ask how get earnings from that UK company legally.

What are you thinking about this setup?
 
Im asking as i am looking for a similar setup with a uk company being an agent. This forum either recommends ofshorecompanycorp or ocra.
 
Mark34 said:
Not sure whether I can say, send me a PM.
And also please explain why you asking.
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You can post all of it in the Mentor Group even corporate Advisors or offshore agent's it's allowed here.

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About Switzerland, what are the real costs - incorporation, taxes, office-virtual office, accounting etc.?
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Expect aprox 5 - 9000 CHF that's what our setup has costsed so far! You will need 20K CHF for the paid in share capital but it can be used to pay for expenses and similar.

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