Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine

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This is‍ exactly why the dream of a libertarian community is pure fantasy. There is no way⁠ for free men to live in harmony with each other without a common moral standard.⁤ That is the key. For example, who would want to live in a community with⁣ people who defend a mindless war of aggression? Would you want to risk doing business⁢ with such people or even living next door to them?

The U.S. is slowly becoming︀ more unlivable because of two polar political extremes (but you can still move to many︁ states where people are far more liberty oriented). Unless one side eventually wins, things will︂ continue to worsen. But then there are countries such as China or Russia, where that︃ vast majority of people conform to authority -- and bow to the unlimited power of︄ the state. That is much worse.

So, what is the solution? Become financially independent, have︅ a portable income, surround yourself with like-minded and moral individuals, and have a plan B︆ for escape if the need arises.
 
By the way.... I want to remind everyone here:

you're all - wrong!
I am‌ - right!

😛

Alright?

And now you may continue.
 
That pretty‍ much summarizes the "logic" of all the claims that you have ever posted in this⁠ thread. 😉
 
Ukraine claims that it hit the Moskva flagship with two missiles. Russia claims that a fire‍ ignited ammunition.

So, the choice is either the Ukrainians sank an incredibly expensive 12,500-ton, 612-foot⁠ mobile-missile-battery cruisier with two relatively cheap missiles -- or this incredibly expensive cruiser sank because⁤ of gross Russian incompetence. Ukrainian boldness or Russian incompetence.

Either way, this massive loss of⁣ Russian firepower looks mighty good for Ukraine.
 
I tend to believe pro-putin cheerleaders⁣ would say Russians sank it on purpose because "Moskva" was:

1. polluting the air too⁢ much
2. it was too old and they decided they need a more modern version︀
3. the ship didn't sink, but it transformed into an underwater missile and now is︁ waiting for the perfect time to launch.
4. fake news, the ship is still on︂ water.
 
It's the same if I would say rapists are ALL Russians‍ because an army of perverts (for real, trashes who rape kids) were raping everything what⁠ moves while killing them in Ukraine.

Keep ignoring this fact.
 
You are aware there are nazis in russian army too, right?

There is plenty‍ of pictures online with russian soldiers similar to the one above. Even good Putin's friends⁠ from Wagner like rising their right hand in certain way and have certain interesting tattoss⁤ on their bodies... if you know what I mean 😉.

It doesn't mean all the⁣ russians are nazis or that they should be attacked and 'denazified', raped, killed and their⁢ cities destroyed.

Also, I noticed plenty of people like to make a joke of western︀ media and propaganda. They are even almost fully right about it, our western media is︁ a joke, but at least you can state your opinion publicly and not get killed︂ or end up 10-15 years in prison.

Russian media/propaganda is full of lies too... Remember︃ these statements?
I.E.
- Russia has nothing to do with seperatists in ukraine (before the︄ war)
- Russia will not attack Ukraine
- It's just a military exercie, west is︅ being hysterical and seeding fear and propaganda
- Zelenskiy has ran out of kiev
- There is no younger than 18 in our army
- Moskva was not hit by︆ Ukrainians, it was some kind of malfunction that caused the problems
- Moskva has not︇ sunk
- Number of dead and wounded soldiers. Apparently around 1500 dead. Better multiply it︈ with 8-10x
- Claiming there was no killing of civilians and raping women. As a︉ matter of fact, claiming that Ukrainians are bombing their own buildings, killing their own civilians︊ and raping, but Russian army is there to help
and that's just from the top︋ of my head.

If you don't agree with these lies above, you might end up︌ pretty badly (if you are in russia). Here in the west, I have buddies who︍ claim all this above is true and guess what, it's their right to believe it︎ and make such statements. No matter we all know by now they are false statements️ and lies. Eventually, truth gets to surface and for example with Moskva they couldn't hide‌ it for long. Same will be with the rest of the stuff, like dead soldiers‍ for example.

Also, let me finish this post with a nice wagner n**i guy. Putins⁠ must be n**i if he is hiring and hanging out with nazis. Right? - http://www.romea.cz/img_upload/03ec66ac77713bab242255f6194ad3ff/utkin.jpg
 
I already proved (about ten pages ago) that the "n**i Collaborator"‍ mentioned in some of those headlines was simply a Ukrainian Nationalist working with the Germans⁠ to keep Ukraine free from the Soviet Union. In fact, the Germans eventually imprisoned him⁤ in a German concentration camp.

So, if that headlines is so blatantly wrong, how many⁣ other headlines are wrong?

And history has proven that it is far better for a⁢ country to have too many fascists than too many communists, who have zero respect for︀ human life.
 
The minute you have to bend the truth and lie to︀ defend Ukraine by pretending things don't exist then it is over.

In the case of︁ Ukraine, pretending that the Zelensky regime isn't controlled by Nazis and the entire nation hasn't︂ been taken over by this idealogy.

When you have to argue that away or try︃ to brush it aside, just to try and stay on track with the policy of︄ "Russia bad", your position isn't worth anything.

Ukraine is a neo n**i infected nation, and︅ anyone who suggests otherwise is on the wrong side of history.

Some people are willfully︆ lying about it, others are just taken in by the western media which is parroting︇ the message that Ukraine is the greatest nation on earth and they do not have︈ the grey matter to figure things out for themselves.
 
Denazificafion of Mariupol proceeds undisturbed and will soon be completed.
Easy to talk s**t from Lithuania, ask people in Mariupol what they think of the regime's tugs after years of abuses.


TU-22M delivering gifts to the Azovstal plant where poor Ukrainian soldiers are prohibited by the Zelensky regime to surrender (or they will be shot on the spot by their n**i comrades).

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And you forgot to say︃ that this neonazi state is led by a jew whose grandparents were killed by nazis.︄ Bro, how can anyone take you seriously after the stuff you just wrote here?

I've been in Ukraine and I can tell you firsthand that this Russian propaganda about nazis︅ is just silly... if not retarded to a certain degree.

There is no nation in︆ the world that doesn't have extremists and some even small groups of nazis. As I︇ stated above, Putin is collaborating and has taken pictures with nazis from the Wagner group.︈ Doesn't that make him the same then? I think by the stuff you mentioned, Russia︉ is a neo n**i infected nation. I'm just implying your logic to prove to you︊ how silly it sounds.

By reading some pro-Putin posts here, I'm not surprised Hitler managed︋ to convince big masses that invading other countries is the right thing. Same as a︌ lot of Russians believe today. History will show who is on the wrong side and︍ who is on the right side. Usually, people who defend their homes and their families︎ are on the right side. They had their normal lives and one day they were️ just attacked by an aggressor. Simple as that.
 
Zelenskiy made a‍ fool of a great mind and strategist, Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin so far in this war⁠ 🙂. What does that say about Putin then and his generals?

They are already changing⁤ a narrative in Russia. They say they are fighting NATO, not Ukraine. They can't stand⁣ losing against the guy who played the piano with his cock, so they are doing⁢ everything they can do in their media about it.

The only reason people don't say︀ the same s**t about Putin is that those that wanted to say something are already︁ dead. Mostly poisoned, some disappeared. Those that could say something, live outside of Russia, like︂ Kasparov. Basically, he says the guy is a psychopath which we all know by now.︃ The other guy from the opposition has been arrested the other day.

It's crazy what︄ is going on in Russia lately. It can not end well in a long run︅ I'm afraid
 
i HaVe beEN iN uKrAiNe

Led by Zelensky? Hahaha no-no he is︈ not leading anything, he is fronting the show. Kolomoisky put him there, and it's a︉ n**i-controlled government. Zelensky cannot make a decision of his own, if he were to suggest︊ laying down arms at the Azovastal, he would be shot.

The only thing that you︋ are correct on is the truth prevailing. It's already coming out slowly. Unfortunately, many civilians︌ have died in the process.

And what you are describing with n**i Germany is called︍ mass formation. It's the same reason billions of people allowed an experimental medical product into︎ their bodies, and why the default position for many is now "slava Ukraine". It has️ nothing to do with "russian propaganda" Russia is losing the information war. But on the‌ ground, they are winning comfortably.
 
Keep repeating that 'n**i-controlled government. If you repeat︃ it enough times, you might actually start believing it, but it's still not true.

You sit there with Zelenskiy so you know he can't make decisions on his own? How︄ can you come up with such a stupid statement and make it like it's a︅ fact?

Truth is prevailing, a few posts above I wrote all the Russian lies that︆ got to the surface already. Most of it is them losing land they conquered, losing︇ 15-20k soldiers, their biggest warship by a country that has no navy etc.

Like I︈ said, I was born in a country that was at a war. Same shitty propaganda︉ was on the other side. That we are nazis, that they are attacking to protect︊ themselves and in their media, they were winning. In the end, they fell apart same︋ as their lies. Same as Russia is "winning" now.

You can conquer the land, but︌ not people.
 
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