Russian President Putin announces military operation in Ukraine
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The biolab bunker in Mariupol where Nato generals and officers from diffrent country are stuck who can't leave it anymore and which is being run by a company Hunter Biden ,Zelenskiy are coowners.
Its already known what is there and its︀ just a matter of time till the russians get entry to it.
Macron can begg︁ as much as he wants russions won't let the foreign legion go .
So USA︅ inaved countries for accepting goods not in USD ?
Where were you there ?
And yes Russia has the right to defend itself since ukraine is existenially important for russia︆ which russian politicans knew exectly and knew exectly that joining nato will cause by 99.9%︇ a war.
Idiots like you would see real consequences like a nuclear war.
The biolab bunker in Mariupol where Nato generals and officers from diffrent country are stuck who can't leave it anymore and which is being run by a company Hunter Biden ,Zelenskiy are coowners.
Its already known what is there and its︀ just a matter of time till the russians get entry to it.
Macron can begg︁ as much as he wants russions won't let the foreign legion go .
So USA︅ inaved countries for accepting goods not in USD ?
Where were you there ?
And yes Russia has the right to defend itself since ukraine is existenially important for russia︆ which russian politicans knew exectly and knew exectly that joining nato will cause by 99.9%︇ a war.
Idiots like you would see real consequences like a nuclear war.
Last time it happened, the US went so mad it almost destroyed the world. Learn the damn history!
@polonieth has got a point. What exactly your point is? Russia isn't allowed to pursue its geopolitical interests just like the US does?
You dont find it problematic to justify killing of innocent people by saying "they also did something bad"?
I don't give a f*ck about your ideologies or beliefs. I care about innocent people. Many Russians like yourself (probably) are brainwashed with zero empathy. And most of them are egocentric.
But I get it, Russians have such a kind of mentality. I am not speaking about all of them, but I know enough Russians to be able to identify this.
This is too crazy for me to rationalize any motive for the killing, raping, and hurting in other ways innocent people. And this is not a one-man show, but a clear strategy of your dicktator.
So feel free to pass on my comments, I have nothing︀ else to say to you.
But I get it, Russians have such a kind of mentality. I am not speaking about all of them, but I know enough Russians to be able to identify this.
This is too crazy for me to rationalize any motive for the killing, raping, and hurting in other ways innocent people. And this is not a one-man show, but a clear strategy of your dicktator.
So feel free to pass on my comments, I have nothing︀ else to say to you.
There's a contradiction between these facts:
* on one hand, some guys on this forum in this topic claim that russia and its army are crumbling
* one the other hand, they keep posting here every day, multiple times, coming up with new and new proof from a certain type of sources
If the 1st was true, the 2nd wouldn't have been occuring. Why would they bother, if the 1st was so true and obvious?
The only reason they bother is that they themselves aren't certain that the 1st is true.
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By the way, that applies to both sides.
* on one hand, some guys on this forum in this topic claim that russia and its army are crumbling
* one the other hand, they keep posting here every day, multiple times, coming up with new and new proof from a certain type of sources
If the 1st was true, the 2nd wouldn't have been occuring. Why would they bother, if the 1st was so true and obvious?
The only reason they bother is that they themselves aren't certain that the 1st is true.
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By the way, that applies to both sides.
So, you really know nothing at all about history. Yet, you berate those who actually know history. When you read this description of the "Winter War" it sounds almost like a description of the war in Ukraine.
1) Invasion of Finland by Soviet Russia.
2) Despite superior military strength, especially in tanks and aircraft, the Soviet Russia suffered severe losses and initially made little headway.
3) The world's nations condemned the Soviet Russian aggression and imposed sanctions, including expulsion from the League of Nations.
4) The Soviet Russians made the same ridiculous excuse of "security reasons" for its invasion.
5) The Russians invaded Finland after Finland︀ refused the idiotic Russian demands.
6) The same pattern repeats with all of Russia's neighbors,︁ which is why NATO exists and why Finland and Sweden now wish NATO membership, because︂ no one is safe from Russian aggression.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
It is︌ ironic that Russia's aggression is always counter-productive because of its own incompetence. That has also︍ happened this year. Finland and Sweden previously had no interest in NATO membership. Now they︎ do. NATO previously had only trip-wire levels of troops near the Russian border, now it️ will have full-blown military bases and a far larger number of troops. Nice job, Russia. You really improved your security.
1) Invasion of Finland by Soviet Russia.
2) Despite superior military strength, especially in tanks and aircraft, the Soviet Russia suffered severe losses and initially made little headway.
3) The world's nations condemned the Soviet Russian aggression and imposed sanctions, including expulsion from the League of Nations.
4) The Soviet Russians made the same ridiculous excuse of "security reasons" for its invasion.
5) The Russians invaded Finland after Finland︀ refused the idiotic Russian demands.
6) The same pattern repeats with all of Russia's neighbors,︁ which is why NATO exists and why Finland and Sweden now wish NATO membership, because︂ no one is safe from Russian aggression.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
It is︌ ironic that Russia's aggression is always counter-productive because of its own incompetence. That has also︍ happened this year. Finland and Sweden previously had no interest in NATO membership. Now they︎ do. NATO previously had only trip-wire levels of troops near the Russian border, now it️ will have full-blown military bases and a far larger number of troops. Nice job, Russia. You really improved your security.
Mind you that you are literally speaking to︈ the same guy who said this:
"The biolab bunker in Mariupol where Nato generals and︉ officers from diffrent country are stuck who can't leave it anymore and which is being︊ run by a company Hunter Biden ,Zelenskiy are coowners.
Its already known what is there︋ and its just a matter of time till the russians get entry to it."
"The biolab bunker in Mariupol where Nato generals and︉ officers from diffrent country are stuck who can't leave it anymore and which is being︊ run by a company Hunter Biden ,Zelenskiy are coowners.
Its already known what is there︋ and its just a matter of time till the russians get entry to it."
i know many russians who where very happy with their investments in germany till this year 🙂 the diffrence between a good and bad advisor who doesnt forsees
Also you may answer to your one sided way of looking........where do you support civilians of poor countries who are going to suffer and many to die because of lack of food because of sanctions ?
So millions of people are going to die because lack of food because of sanctions but no mention about them because we need to support not our war ?
Also you may answer to your one sided way of looking........where do you support civilians of poor countries who are going to suffer and many to die because of lack of food because of sanctions ?
So millions of people are going to die because lack of food because of sanctions but no mention about them because we need to support not our war ?
You are truly deluded. That has nothing to do with sanctions. It has to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so that Ukraine cannot plant, grow, and harvest food for export.
Ukraine produces more corn and rapeseed for export than Russia does -- and just as much barley (Russia exports twice as much wheat). Even without Western sanctions, the invasion︀ of Ukraine would have caused major disruptions to food supplies for third world nations.
Russia chose to invade Ukraine, so all the results of that invasion are Russia's fault.
Ukraine produces more corn and rapeseed for export than Russia does -- and just as much barley (Russia exports twice as much wheat). Even without Western sanctions, the invasion︀ of Ukraine would have caused major disruptions to food supplies for third world nations.
Russia chose to invade Ukraine, so all the results of that invasion are Russia's fault.
This is a very wrong way of thinking my friend. It's like bully getting angry when the kid that is threatened all the time by that bully, decides to go their own way and have nothing to do with that bully. Then the bully says... I'm forced to beat you now because you don't do as I want and say. You are FORCING︀ me to be a bully and beat the hell out of you. This is your︁ logic.
Putin thinks Ukrainians are not real nation and they should all be under mother︂ Russia. Who is he to decide that? Let me tell you something. I come from︃ a former Yugoslavian republic. My country (Croatia) was attacked by Serbia (yugoslavia still back then)︄ and they had 10/10 same BS reasons and rethoric and agenda as Putin has today.︅
They said for croats they are not real nation, they are just catholic serbs, that︆ they go to war to 'protect' serbs, even similar stories about nazis. They even pronounced︇ their pararepublic inside croatia where mostly serbs lived (all sound familiar?). You can conquer a︈ land, but never the people, hence they lost the war. 3x bigger and stronger army︉ have lost... after 5 bloody years and thousands killed.
You may love it or hate︊ it, Ukrainian people will decide if they want to go to EU, not Putin. Ukrainian︋ people will decide if they want to go to NATO, not Putin. Now they want︌ this even more. Now even sweden and finland are thinking about this. This war will︍ prolong, but nothing will be gained for Russia. There will only be thousands of dead︎ russians and ukrainians. That's the only guarantee in this war.
I always blame the bully,️ weather that is Russia in this case, or west in some other cases. Anyways, isn't it great we all can state our own opinion here and not end up in a gulag in siberia for 15 years?
I saw that oposition leader in Russia was arrested today. Over the years many from oposition and journalists were arrested, killed, poisoned, disappeared in russia... We all know it's not a coincidence. Yup, sounds like a bully to me. If you are not as I tell you, you will FORCE me to kill/poison/xy you, so it's not my fault.
Putin thinks Ukrainians are not real nation and they should all be under mother︂ Russia. Who is he to decide that? Let me tell you something. I come from︃ a former Yugoslavian republic. My country (Croatia) was attacked by Serbia (yugoslavia still back then)︄ and they had 10/10 same BS reasons and rethoric and agenda as Putin has today.︅
They said for croats they are not real nation, they are just catholic serbs, that︆ they go to war to 'protect' serbs, even similar stories about nazis. They even pronounced︇ their pararepublic inside croatia where mostly serbs lived (all sound familiar?). You can conquer a︈ land, but never the people, hence they lost the war. 3x bigger and stronger army︉ have lost... after 5 bloody years and thousands killed.
You may love it or hate︊ it, Ukrainian people will decide if they want to go to EU, not Putin. Ukrainian︋ people will decide if they want to go to NATO, not Putin. Now they want︌ this even more. Now even sweden and finland are thinking about this. This war will︍ prolong, but nothing will be gained for Russia. There will only be thousands of dead︎ russians and ukrainians. That's the only guarantee in this war.
I always blame the bully,️ weather that is Russia in this case, or west in some other cases. Anyways, isn't it great we all can state our own opinion here and not end up in a gulag in siberia for 15 years?
I saw that oposition leader in Russia was arrested today. Over the years many from oposition and journalists were arrested, killed, poisoned, disappeared in russia... We all know it's not a coincidence. Yup, sounds like a bully to me. If you are not as I tell you, you will FORCE me to kill/poison/xy you, so it's not my fault.
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