Pavel Durov Arrested France

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A fair question to ask: if Pavel Durov was not a russian citizen, would he‌ still be arrested?
 
Great question! 😉

PS. I would really like‍ to know the answer to this, too. 🙄
 
Apparently he traveled with that woman (Yulia Vavilova) to France. Did she convince him to‌ go to France? Hopefully this chick did not cloud his judgement about travelling to France‍ damn_(.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...ss-pavel-durov-as-he-was-arrested/ar-AA1psN0Y
P.S There is always a common factor with quite a few of these⁠ rich guys downfall sadly. They are smart in some areas and naive in others.
 
interesting news...
https://www.wam.ae/es/article/1436rwz-uae-closely-following-case-pavel-durov
ABU DHABI, 27th August, 2024 (WAM) -- The UAE is closely following‌ the case of its citizen Pavel Durov, founder of Telegram, who was arrested by the‍ French authorities in Paris–Le Bourget Airport, emphasising that the UAE has submitted a request to⁠ the Government of the French Republic to provide him with all the necessary consular services⁤ in an urgent manner.

In a statement, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA) stressed⁣ that prioritising the welfare of UAE citizens, safeguarding their interests, and providing them with all⁢ aspects of support is a key priority for the UAE.
 
"Under French law, Durov can remain in custody for questioning for up to four days.‌ After that, judges must decide to either charge or release him"
 
Very true. But successful people have to‍ constantly think about security details and arrangements anyway. Part of that arrangements is ensuring you⁠ don't travel to politically hostile counties especially when you have a certain nationality.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58682998
What Pavel needs to worry about now is whether the US jumps in and comes up⁤ with charges to seek his extradition to US.
 
Smart point. Some experts said the US is using⁣ france as a proxy to arrest Durov. Even in interview he had a few months⁢ ago, Durov mentioned that the Congress asked him for backdoor access to which he refused.︀
It will be game over for him if US steps in.
 
for the purpose of⁠ this case I'd redefine "success" to ability to go wherever I like whenever I like⁤ - Mr. Durov failed in this clearly

what crime did he commit again?
 
I'm NO Nostradamus, but I have a feeling that if Putin/Russia does NOT jump into‌ the fight and start to throw the "weight" of their massive nuclear arsenals around...Pavel is‍ going to be toast!
As the Germans aptly demonstrated... The French cuckolds (yeah...I know I⁠ have French relatives, so I am speaking from experience smi(&%) buckle quickly when faced with⁤ a formidable adversary...usually three days rof/% smi(&%
 
Not really....***IF*** Putin/Russia also "join the battle" akin to what China did for Meng‍ Wanzhou.
Canada paid a horrible price for messing with Meng Wanzhou!
France will pay an⁠ even BIGGER price if Putin/Russia chooses to engage!
The question is: Will Putin do it?⁤ 🙄

PS. If I were Putin, I wouldn't! Pavel made the choice to turn his back⁣ on his country years ago, so good rhythms!
Pavel didn't correctly estimate the number of⁢ AMORAL men in the world (and neither did I decades ago stupi#21 so I'm in NO︀ position to dunk on him ), but Machiavelli was, and STILL is correct,we're OUTNUMBERED, Daddy-o!︁
 
Btw the EU does not really have free speech and never has done. As one‌ can see in Article 10.2 free speech cannot actually be freely exercised and won't provide‍ any defense in court as its extremely limited in EU. In such, publications moving to⁠ make the Pavel situation into a battle for free speech....good luck....lol.

Article 10 of the⁤ European Convention on Human Rights​


Article 10 – Freedom of expression

  1. Everyone has the right⁣ to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive⁢ and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This︀ article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.︁
  2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be︂ subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are︃ necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public︄ safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals,︅ for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of︆ information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.
 
That one is easy. Zuck is mostly controlled already. Likely already since the early‍ days of Facebook

You have⁣ got to be kidding me..

TG is already since forever deleting channels and groups and⁢ even cooperating with governments. There are much better alternatives which are at the very least︀ a lot more private.

I can't stop to think︆ about this chick being a honey pot..

If so, I hope that Durov enjoyed that︇ pussy long enough.

Last but not least. Acquiring an UAE passport is extremely difficult. Multiple︈ billionaires failed and here is Durov, holding that passport. What leverage does the UAE have︉ over him?
 
He probably‌ forms an important part of the global intelligence operations of the UAE government. I highly‍ doubt he is not helping UAE spy on dissidents etc as israel has been helping⁠ them software wise for years to do similiar. Every country likes to spy on their⁤ advisories and friends and there is nothing more gulf regimes fear than protests, dissent and⁣ being toppled to push them to do so.

I'm speculating but right now EU and⁢ US etc want him to probably do same for them 😉
 
Reminds me of that joke: "When can a⁠ woman make you a millionaire? Answer: when you are a billionaire."
 
Honestly, all this did was show tons of people that Telegram is not E2EE on‌ most chats and have spooked them to Session/Signal/etc. So all in all it may even‍ be a good thing LOL
 
Telegram is my favorite app for this. You can choose end to end encryption on‌ telegram if you wish, it's surely more safe than whatsapp or facebook. In general I‍ like telegram and I think its safe as long as you are not famous person⁠ or osama bin laden. Nice design and great user experience too
 
Don't use it for⁠ illegal s**t like a drugs, weapon, child P**N etc(I don't know else what you use⁤ which affect you with deleted channels) and it will be fine.
For my purpose I⁣ never had problem with deleting or other moderation from application side.
 
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