panamalaw.org AKA Panama Legal SCAM - WARNING - LEARN - SCAM

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Hi,I'm a victim of panamalaw.org they scammed me for more than 3000 usd, I wanted‌ to incorporate a company with them with some additional services, they never made the incorporation‍ of my panama company nor did they even replied to my e-mails.When I tried the⁠ livechat of panamalaw.org scam, some kiddi got online which didn't even told me why they⁤ are not going to incorporate the company I paid for !!! BIG panamalaw.org SCAM Now I was that frustrated that I began to google for panamalaw.com scam, and guess what⁣ I found?! Tons of complaints about how panamalaw.com rip off people for millions....Here are a⁢ few of the forums I found:Panama Legal is a HUGE SCAM OPERATOR!Here is︀ a snap from a Yahoo comment, seems many are aware of it but they are︁ masters in google seo and promote that heavely that the scams get down under all︂ the false and promoting stuff they publish.../forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11&stc=1&d=1265881091And here another poster is making aware of that︃ they try everything to hide they are a scam:/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12&stc=1&d=1265881599Let it be said... Panamalaw.org aka Panama︄ Legal is a huge ilegal operation, fraud and scam...





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Thank you for sharing this, however, I would like to hear the story from Panamalaw.org‌ - I see that on scam.com they have posted a lot of stuff and it‍ looks like you are truly have been scammed... a shame for this industry, so far⁠ it was only the payment industry and now the CONS moved further to this industry⁤ too....
 
If you login to the forum More... with user : panama and PSW: fightback2010 you‌ will find tons of complains about them, it is time to fight those fraudstars.....

here a snap of it:

and another few:

And one more....
 
Looks like there is something true about this story, we will keep it for now‌ but watching the outcome...
 
Thank you for sharing all your information in regards to those scammers, it is usefull‌ for all of us to know who we can trust and who we defiantly should‍ avoid.
 
This is some very bad news, actually the first one I see any bad report‌ on a offshore company formation service, greatful to have found at least one company which‍ also let us interact.... thank you for sharing this gold mine of information, I hope⁠ it will help others to avoid SCAM panamalaw.org SCAM and stay away.
 
Thank you, found additional information about this company somewhere else... they are indeed a SCAM‌ and not worth to spend any money on......shame for Panama and big shame for the‍ industry.
 
Made some research on this too, if you want to see how they look, wola‌ see attachments....Want to know his name: Marcos Alberto Cutino Gonzalez's And here is another site‍ which the owner of Panamalegal.org AKA panamalaw.org is the proud owner of: Mexico Passport, Mexico⁠ CitizenshipWant more, read further...2. Marcos' second in command is a shadowy character named⁤ Renato Severi who claims to be Cutino's "Vice Chairman/Director *Latin American Legal,S.A. , Div. CUTINO⁣ International,S.A.". He is also running another scam operation out of Guatemala at: www.getagripglobal.com, he⁢ is currently attempting to raise $2,000,000.00 USD from "investors"to expand with (minimum "investment" $100,000.00 USD).︀ He claims to be a graduate of the Institute of Texarkana in Texas. He is︁ reported to also be Marcos' "Life Partner". His nationality is unknown, at this time.The names︂ and comments in the same order as the pictures below:left:This is Ken Biderman.︃ He is Mr. Cutino's feeder. He runs panamalaw.org.He claims to be an MBA from California.︄ He has a thick New Jersey accent.middleThe man Marcos Alberto Cutino Gonzalez (not︅ his real American Texan name but a changed name in Guatemala) depicted is a real︆ life Con Man, internet organized crime ringer leader and identity theft fraudulent lawyer. These photos︇ he cannot imagine we as a team of victims have.These photos were supposed to be︈ on More.... If you do a google search "Marcos Cutino" it is the first link.︉ When these photos were leaked by the Marcos Cutino Fraud Investigation Team made up of︊ Professionals hired by former victims, The site More... sudden went offline. Currently the site is︋ still down, it is not certain whether it is a Denial of Service.This crook is︌ currently hiding in Cristobal, Guatemala. He looks friendly but that is why he has stolen︍ upwards of hundreds of millions of dollars. He claims to be a billionaire. But that︎ is possibly a fraud to lure victims.He also claims to be a Mexican. This not️ true as he has a Texas accent.Let us hope the netizens of the world can‌ identify this criminal so that federal law enforcement can apprehend him before he victimizes others.This‍ criminal operates by using a fraudulent set of website blogs to lure victims in including⁠ many you can find if you do a google "Cutino International". All of these blogs⁤ are fake they lead to promoting Cutino. His other websites include Panama Law, Panama Legal,⁣ Panamalaw.org, Cutinointernational.com, Cutinointernational-cr.com, chase-nobank.com, latin american legal, central american legal, Mexican Legal. Do not become⁢ his next victim.This is what happens. Victim wants to do an investment immigration to some︀ country in Latin America (Guatemala) or setup an International Business Corporation, Bank account. They find︁ a "law firm" Cutino International or Panama Law. Then they talk to you on skype︂ or the phone. Then you fly down to Panama, Guatemala or Mexico or some other︃ country to meet with you. They pick you up from the airport with a driver︄ who is already starting to pump you for your likes dislikes. They tell you for︅ client attorney privilege you have to give them a photocopy of your passport, driver's license,︆ you give them your passport copy they welcome you. Then they help arrange for immigration︇ documents (passport, cedulla, tax ID etc.). Unfortunately, the do a name change, birthday change and︈ birth location change. They claim it is a mistake so you leave your documents with︉ them for them to fix. You come back a second time. They as your attorney's︊ prepare an International Trust Agreement (ITA) where they are your trustees for your investment which︋ is a trust account. You wire in your money. They send you some bank cards,︌ bank account logins. Everything seems ok. But then, the cards stop working just when you︍ are about to immigrate. They still have your documents and steal them with the errors︎ unfixed. They then take your millions of dollars in the Trust and the bank claims️ the money is theirs not yours because they wire it to other accounts solely in‌ their name.There are so many victims. These victims are standing together now. We are calling‍ on all those who care about justice. Who care that 85 year old couples life⁠ savings are getting stolen who simply want to immigrate to retire.If anyone knows who this⁤ is. Please blog. If anyone is a victim please blog. If you are law enforcement,⁣ FBI please blog or contact us. We were told in Guatemala, although we have all⁢ their banks, companies they operate out of and all email correspondence from their own internal︀ webmail, it requires incredible co-ordination.FBI, if you want a case to crack that is bigger︁ than Stanford, these folks are the big guys.rightThe man Marcos Alberto Cutino Gonzalez︂ (not his real American Texan name but a changed name in Guatemala) depicted is a︃ real life Con Man, internet organized crime ringer leader and identity theft fraudulent lawyer. These︄ photos he cannot imagine we as a team of victims have.These photos were supposed to︅ be on More.... If you do a google search "Marcos Cutino" it is the first︆ link. When these photos were leaked by the Marcos Cutino Fraud Investigation Team made up︇ of Professionals hired by former victims, The site More... sudden went offline. Currently the site︈ is still down, it is not certain whether it is a Denial of Service.This crook︉ is currently hiding in Cristobal, Guatemala. He looks friendly but that is why he has︊ stolen upwards of hundreds of millions of dollars. He claims to be a billionaire. But︋ that is possibly a fraud to lure victims.He also claims to be a Mexican. This︌ not true as he has a Texas accent.Let us hope the netizens of the world︍ can identify this criminal so that federal law enforcement can apprehend him before he victimizes︎ others.This criminal operates by using a fraudulent set of website blogs to lure victims in️ including many you can find if you do a google "Cutino International". All of these‌ blogs are fake they lead to promoting Cutino. His other websites include Panama Law, Panama‍ Legal, Panamalaw.org, Cutinointernational.com, Cutinointernational-cr.com, chase-nobank.com, latin american legal, central american legal, Mexican Legal. Do not⁠ become his next victim.This is what happens. Victim wants to do an investment immigration to⁤ some country in Latin America (Guatemala) or setup an International Business Corporation, Bank account. They⁣ find a "law firm" Cutino International or Panama Law. Then they talk to you on⁢ skype or the phone. Then you fly down to Panama, Guatemala or Mexico or some︀ other country to meet with you. They pick you up from the airport with a︁ driver who is already starting to pump you for your likes dislikes. They tell you︂ for client attorney privilege you have to give them a photocopy of your passport, driver's︃ license, you give them your passport copy they welcome you. Then they help arrange for︄ immigration documents (passport, cedulla, tax ID etc.). Unfortunately, the do a name change, birthday change︅ and birth location change. They claim it is a mistake so you leave your documents︆ with them for them to fix. You come back a second time. They as your︇ attorney's prepare an International Trust Agreement (ITA) where they are your trustees for your investment︈ which is a trust account. You wire in your money. They send you some bank︉ cards, bank account logins. Everything seems ok. But then, the cards stop working just when︊ you are about to immigrate. They still have your documents and steal them with the︋ errors unfixed. They then take your millions of dollars in the Trust and the bank︌ claims the money is theirs not yours because they wire it to other accounts solely︍ in their name.There are so many victims. These victims are standing together now. We are︎ calling on all those who care about justice. Who care that 85 year old couples️ life savings are getting stolen who simply want to immigrate to retire.If anyone knows who‌ this is. Please blog. If anyone is a victim please blog. If you are law‍ enforcement, FBI please blog or contact us. We were told in Guatemala, although we have⁠ all their banks, companies they operate out of and all email correspondence from their own⁤ internal webmail, it requires incredible co-ordination.FBI, if you want a case to crack that is⁣ bigger than Stanford, these folks are the big guys. Pictures found on : http://www.flickr.com/photos/47142123@N08/?saved=1







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Great, I hope this helps others to avoid this scam company, really bad news!!
 
Are they the same as offshorelegal.org , the website of offshorelegal.org looks very much like‌ the one from panamaoffshore.org they have both the same services and looks scammy?
 
welcome system32, lol cool nick.... I believe they are the same company, now while they‌ got cought with panamalaw and panamalegal.org they simply changed to offshorelegal.org and mayb a dozen‍ other domains..... this old hig is a master in scam way better then many of⁠ the other scam operations out there...
 
After the big suprise of panamalaw.org I would not touch any of such companies around‌ there but rather go through a lawyer or business associate if I need any services‍ in Panama in sucks than one or should we say two fellows can mess up⁠ an entire business sector, also not the best promotion for Panama companies at all, but⁤ maybe they are agents for the governments fighting tax havens 😀
 
Seems those rats are keeping up with their scam corporation, the latest I noticed searching‌ on google for panama legal scam aka panama offshore scam, is that they accusing‍ invalid1c now to be a scam, obviously because of this thread😛 what they try to⁠ prove is nonsense and a cheap way to make some sort of revenge because of⁤ this thread.

Guys did you forgot about the many people who writing about your scam⁣ organizations on talkgold, scam.com and many other places?

Also it seems that you scam crocks⁢ don't know the definition of scam, you should come down from the palms and eat︀ some less bananas you chimps , even if you have a master degree in scamming︁ and ripping off people then, firstly you must understand what exactly is a scam. Well︂ according to the Cambridge English dictionary a scam is 'an illegal plan for making money.'︃ actually what panama legal aka panama law aka panama offshore is doing what you accusing︄ cclogic for has nothing to do with a scam, I'm so happy that they are︅ here to provide a honest and legit business so I was able to avoid crocks︆ and SCAM's like panama legal. Thats also why I want to defend them while︇ they don't seems to be aware of your latest business development.

What you try to︈ turn into a bad reputation of cclogic simply shows how damn stupid you guys are,︉ anyway didn't expected any cleverness from scammers like panama legal panamalaw.org.

Now I would︊ rather listen to what the at least 60 people on the different forums have to︋ say about scam panama legal / panamalaw.org rather than what those scammers wroten on a︌ blog owned by this scam company panama legal aka panama offshore aka panamalaw.org , they︍ even didn't bother to make their own text, they simply copy/pasted something from another forum︎ not related to all this but has a different subject and different objectives.
 
Jpay,

Thank you for making us aware of this, I have been looking for the‌ thread or post you mentioned, but seems I can't find it, looks like they are‍ out for something... can you provide some link or screenshot?
 
I find it very amusing how they try to turn their very bad and scammi‌ reputation into something good, while they try to take down a competitor, here is the‍ link SCAM PANAMA LAW - WARNING

Lets take a little look at what they say:⁠

The good name is long gone and in exchange with a very⁢ bad reputation by ripping hundreds of people off for their money, but such people are︀ perfect liars actually they act as criminals do a reason article I read about psycho︁ criminals revealed that they are perfect to convince people that they are not guilty, but︂ when it comes to the investigation report from the FBI and Police it shows clearly︃ how they manipulate and fool innocent people.

What should I say, they︆ got busted, now they try to fool new people into their business, they only mentioned︇ the cclogic forum not the thread at SCAM Panama Legal is a HUGE SCAM OPERATOR!︈ or Talk Gold panamalaw.org totaly scam / by arikurniawan - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money︉ Forum which I believe way more than those crocks.
 
Thank you jpay for all the nice words and your opnions.

Looks to me that‌ they try to repair their damaged name on the costs of their competition, what surprise‍ me to see it that they don't replt to any threads on the different forums⁠ to defend themself but rather register a new domain to make statements, not the best⁤ way to build trust towards forum readers, also they say that people should not pay⁣ attention to forums, blogs etc. which century do they live, forums are the no.1 source⁢ to find useful information about almost any topic.

Finally, this statement let them simply look︀ stupid:

Did anyone told them that this forum is new and started︅ in 2009 and that's the reason for why most of the regular posters here are︆ reg. in 2009 ! Finally, we don't claim that we started in 1990 or even︇ 2001 or something, the domain name worked for us since it fits into our company︈ name, we have domains from back of 2001 and 2002 no problem, but we wanted︉ the invalid1c domain name... even we have corporate documents from these years, damn they are︊ stupid. Additionally I must admit to Jpay statements about the definition of scam, learn it︋ you crocks.
 
copy that, there is no need to pull up more information we are not in‌ a position where we need to defent our self, they are the one hunted by‍ Interpol and the FBI.
 
Everyone know that Panamalegal is a scam and that this is a SEO trick to‌ get rancked up the competition, so why should they do it? Simple to discredit a‍ honest company which is a preditor, leave them alone, report them to the FEDS &⁠ BBB for defamation or due to ripping people, they need to go to jail alterntive⁤ pay some of the Russian Cyber mafia to hit them with a huge DDOS attack⁣ to close their stinking doors.
 
What they do is very bad for their own reputation, as I see it they‌ are what people say they are, only thing they do is to ripp people so‍ they can expand their maf business in Guatemala, the statement from the FSC ridiculous, I'm⁠ not aware of how they determ their fraud scale or how they are calculate their⁤ warnings, but if I go to Google and search for BVI company it seems that⁣ every second listing there are doing exactly the same as cclogic is doing! partnering up⁢ with lawyers or certified accountants in the jurisdictions they want to offer business, this is︀ how the hole thing works. Even Deloute, KPMG, Price Water House and the other major︁ companies have strategic business partners and doing it that way, nothing new here. What I︂ think is that it was a competitor that made the FSC aware of something which︃ is not true, or this protecting body is simply not working very well, it is︄ a false positive - lol

People should look at all time what reviews there are︅ on forums, blogs and other platforms to see if there is something negative there to︆ find about a company, it helps thousands of people each day to avoid to be︇ scammed, thats why Panama Scam say no one should look at forums, blogs etc. because︈ they have on all authority forums a very bad reputation and lots of negative reviews.︉

I'm always spidering forums like WHT, SCAM.COM , RipOffReport as well as many other high︊ moderated forums before I go with a company and actualy put my hard earned money︋ there...
 
I'm not sure how they managed to get away to claim they are lawyers, not‌ I have been studying their website for several hours, the only clients they may have‍ is Al Qaida, Osama Bin Laden and all the other terrorist groups actually I believe⁠ they are targeting their marketing towards this groups List of designated terrorist organizations - Wikipedia,⁤ the free encyclopedia of fine business peoples. The only thing they have on their agenda⁣ is how to hide money, advice people where it is (only in their opinion) a⁢ good place for money launderers and other criminals to incorporate. Take a look at them...︀ now how long do you think it will take before the FBI, Interpol or any︁ other powerful authority will knock on their doors with a search warrant and close the︂ hole chimp house? Actually I'm afraid of that my IP is already logged because I︃ have entered their site, this is defiantly bad business, I would highly recommend anyone not︄ to pull up this website with a very good anonymous proxy.
 
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