New route linking Russia - Iran - India

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Interesting how Russia has declined so far that they now rely on countries like Iran‌ and North Korea. They have such a large population, but do such a poor job‍ of having any sort of national prosperity or local business scene. The most educated and⁠ capable citizens of these countries moving elsewhere, doesn't seem like a fixable problem.
 
It make sense for both countries long term. Iran has been under US sanctions for⁣ 43 years and is still there just like Cuba and North Korea - sanctions don't⁢ work in the long term. Likely Russia will now be under sanctions for the foreseeable︀ future. So to join forces and continue to enhance existing trade, economic, scientific and military︁ partnerships is in both parties mutual interest.

I said it before on here that the︂ world is splitting into two spheres and with two independent financial systems. The western based︃ dollar system will be up against a likely BRICS based system eventually. The days of︄ a single USD based global financial system are numbered in the long run. Two systems︅ in parallel will exist. And those who have the resources you will pay for using︆ their financial system. Weaponizing sanctions and collective punishment is never a good idea long term.︇
 
Russia signs new multi-billions contracts with new countries - decline of Russia.⁣

Russia deploys ultra-sonic missles with the technology that doesn't exist anywhere in the world, and⁢ won't for a foreseable future - decline of Russia.

Putin goes to a toilet -︀ decline of Russia.

Russia now builds its own civil airplanes, luxury cars and has its︁ own alternative to SWIFT - decline of Russia.

Putin eats an ice-cream - decline of︂ Russia.

Saudi Arabia pivots towards Russia and China - decline of Russia.

Putin wakes up︃ and yawns - decline of Russia.

Ukraine has no electricity - decline of Russia.

Africa makes new deals with Russia - decline of Russia.

Russia wins in Ukraine - decline︄ of Russia.

So, what do you mean by "rely on"? And why do you call︅ doing business with Iran and North Korean "decline"?
Some smart people has left Russia -︆ correct, this isn't good.
 
I call doing business with Iran and North Korea a decline because throughout history Russia‌ has considered itself above these countries. When Russia was still the USSR they sent weapons,‍ fertilizer, resources all over the world at low prices. Now, they are using these countries⁠ to receive military supply. The fact that they went from a huge army in Soviet⁤ times, to getting weapons from poor outdated backwater countries is a decline. Russia imports poorly⁣ made drones from Iran, and other material from NK.

Yes Ukraine doesn't have power, but⁢ that doesn't mean Ukraine is losing. Quite the opposite, the Russian army turned out to︀ be vastly worse than the entire world thought. The arms they exported previously are not︁ very good. For example the air defence is not effective against American HIMARS. Their basic︂ military logistics for food, fuel, is terrible. The army's moral is terrible. The Russians have︃ lost pretty much any ground they had captured.

Russia has difficulty making any complex military︄ tech on their own. For example microchips, sensors, optics, electronics, etc. If you look at︅ captured Russian military tech it has outdated Western consumer goods inside of it.

Making new︆ deals with other countries isn't a victory for Russia, its a defeat. They are being︇ cut off from the rest of the world and I don't think this trend will︈ reverse for a long time.

Before the war I surely thought Russia was more powerful︉ than it has proven to be. It is a global laughing stock at how pathetic︊ they are. They went from the huge 'red army' threat, to a bunch of morons︋ sent to their deaths by a leader who has 0 care for them.
 
Sadly America thought it was powerful too but after 20 years it was humiliated again‌ and defeated by a bunch of guys in sandals and turbans carrying RPG's and AK47's‍ in Afghanistan. The Taliban are now firmly back in charge. After 20 years the US⁠ achieved zero after spending over 2 trillions dollars and throwing away thousands of U.S soldier⁤ lives it left with with nothing to show for it. It had to leave in⁣ a hurried humiliating way more embarrassing than Vietnam. The world saw this defeat and and⁢ the disorder of their withdrawal and realized the emperor was indeed naked. At this point︀ some countries started to pivot and become wary of the U.S especially in the middle︁ east. In the eyes of some people they questioned Americans strength too. The same questions︂ will arise for Russia in due course if events follow its prior Afghan adventures.

However what Russia may achieve is a pivot point in history and in the global order.︃ With global wealth moving east new and old trade routes are opening up. It's focus︄ is now east and not west. New alliances and trading partners, blocks are being formed︅ with Russia playing an important role. Russia is by far the biggest country on the︆ planet by landmass and has resources (US is not even in the top 3) so︇ Russia cannot simply be ignored and shut out. Isolation has not worked so far against︈ Russia and is unlikely too. Sadly you cannot ignore or shutout the largest country on︉ the planet so easily I am afraid.

Also people are focusing on the wrong things︊ such as access to finance and military technology. No country such as Cuba, Iran or︋ North Korea has collapsed because of lack of access to this although hardship is widespread.︌ And U.S could not defeat the Taliban despite technological superiority. So putting things into perspective,︍ avoiding emotions, dealing with reality and avoiding fantasy scenarios is important to understand the direction︎ things are going in.

We are in interesting times......😉
 
I get what you're saying but I see it from the other perspective. I feel‌ like global wealth was rising in the east, however things like Russia's war in Ukraine,‍ how China dealt with covid, revealed it is not a sustainable place to store your⁠ wealth or live.

Not only that most eastern countries have major demographic problems (China will⁤ have a shrinking population soon due to uneven gender balance, huge amounts of their geography⁣ is problematic with things like sink holes). These geographic problems will get far worse due⁢ to climate change. Huge amounts of land in places like India will become almost uninhabitable.︀
Global wealth is rising in the east, but all the new wealthy people there want︁ to get out as soon as they can due to instability, lack of freedoms, and︂ climate driven migration.

Most likely the war in Russia was started due to these demographic︃ problems. The population of Russia will shrink, resulting in a lower number of people that︄ could participate in an invasion. Either they did it now, or their country withers away.︅

Cold countries will have a net positive impact from global warming (increased growing seasons, more︆ houses will be able to be built, increased access to mineral deposits) then on top︇ of that wealth will flood in from places seriously effected by climate change, pushing up︈ asset prices.

In short wealth will rise in the east, and move west.
 
The language you've used‍ is the source of your mistake.

" throughout history" -- there you go. What period?⁠ Thousands of years? Hunderds?

During USSR? Alright. Then, this begs the questions:

* Is the⁤ modern-day Russia equal to USSR in every aspect?
* Is the Russian government nowadays, every⁣ politician in it, the same as it used to be in the era of USSR?⁢
* Is the situation in the world identical to the one of that era?

* In what sense "above"? In every possible aspect? Or in some ones?
* Even if︀ this is so, why do you think that modern-day Russia should think that it's disgusting︁ to do business with someone who it looked from above in the past?

Even US,︂ UK and Europe have been looking at Russia from above for the last dozens of︃ years. But somehow, this has never scared them away from doing business with it.

50 years ago China was nobody. Nowadays is a superpower. Spain 200 years ago or so︄ ruled the world. Nowadays it's an ordinary country.

Do you suggest that if in the︅ past some countries had certain attitude towards others, then the same attitude should be applied︆ to the modern day too?

Your logic applied to US, UK and EU: they have︇ declined too because they're doing, and are dependent on, China. The China that they in︈ the past, and even nowadays, consider themselves to be "above" of.
 
I disagree with a lot of this. For︉ example USA isn't dependent on China for military gear (my original point with Russia is︊ that they lack the capability to manufacture their own military gear because of sanctions. This︋ shows a serious lack of innovation and local capabilities).

What exactly do Russia, Iran, and︌ NK have to offer the world other than certain natural resources that you can get︍ from elsewhere, and low grade military gear? I don't really see a reason these countries︎ would 'gain' anything anytime soon.
 
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Firstly, Russia, Iran and NK don't "have to" offer the world anything because⁤ they don't owe the world.

Secondly, there some technological sectors in Russia that don't exist⁣ anywhere in the world. Or for some, there're only 2-3 countries that have alternatives. This⁢ is how much undeveloped and non-innovative Russia is:

* space exploration; engines and tech for︀ spaceships; everything related to space;
* atomic space; atomic power plants
* different types of︁ engines, toubines
* KAMAZ the truck - always wins Paris - Dakar rally
* metallurgy,︂ mechanical engineering
* alternative to SWIFT - СПФС
* alternative to Visa/Master Card - Мир︃
* most innovative banks - Tinkoff

* alternative to Google - Yandex
* alternative to︄ Youtube - RuTube
* some stuff in the medicine (I'd need to do a search)︅
* programmers and hackers -- one of the best in the world

* it's own︆ civil airplane - Sukhoi SuperJet
* hyper-sonic missles (a few ones for which there're no︇ alternatives at all and can't be intercepted) - Сармат/Satan, Avangard...

* GLONASS
* tank "Armata"︈ - new generation; no alternatives in the world
* airplane Ту-160М2
* nuclear-powered icebreakers
* nuclear-powered submarines (biggest in the world; no alternatives in the world to some of them)︉
* cutting-edge figter jets of new generations (1 or a few...) -- which cost 1/10︊ of those in US yet are on par with them

* AK-47 - has been︋ the best in the world for ... 50 years or so

* Pushkin, Dostoevsky, Lermontov,︌ Tolstoy, Stalin .... 😛 and the like

Forgot:

* VK.com (alternative to Facebook; with free pirated︍ music, by the way)
* Telegram
* Aurus Motors - luxury cars
* Baikal -︎ microprocessors (getting started)
* And of course - Vodka 😛
 
They are sovereign countries that are under no obligation to offer the world anything⁤ other than the international commitments they signed up to. Not sure why you said that.⁣

You can read up a little about those countries technology wise. medicine, food and commodities⁢ etc. They are also not as backwards countries scientifically in practice. All three countries have︀ launched satellites into space - the later two despite heavy sanctions. They all have space︁ programs so could be business opportunity there for developing countries to collaborate outside high priced︂ western services in areas of satellite communication etc. They also all have civilian nuclear programs︃ and NK and Russia have hypersonic missile programs despite sanctions.

I would not characterize them︄ as having "low grade military gear". The systems they have just have to be able︅ to do the job with accuracy. Not even U.S General Mckenzie would describe Iran's basic︆ ballistic missiles as low grade but he said.... "their missiles are accurate" after striking Al︇ Asad Airbase from range with pin point accuracy. See below.






Don't think Saudi's would say︈ that either about the pin point accuracy of Iranian drones hitting their oil facilities at︉ range from Yemen - it did the job. Don't let the media fool you with︊ selective stories designed to re-enforce a specific narrative - focus on the end result.

P.S You can see below how NK, Russian and Iranian technology linked together years ago gained︋ Iran a successful satellite launch while under sanctions. And now NK is launching its satellites︌. There is a lot the media is selective about reporting 😉.







P.S Back to︍ topic. The new trade route outside west I would like to see how U.S responds︎ to the reality that the world is moving on without them, doing business without their️ money and no longer reliant on them....lol.
 
Putin eats ice creams and yawns? I︄ thought he was better than that.

Man Russia is really going downhill if this is︅ true.
 
I guess its all based on which media to believe. I⁢ can find stories that support either side of this. To be so firm, as you︀ do... please enlighten me about your sources.
 
All being equal, if one doesn't speak russian, it's way harder to find out what's‌ going on in Russia.

Even if one is neutral, he'll naturally bump into more news‍ that spead s**hit about Russia, and also China, Iran, others... rather than the ones that⁠ praize or that make fare statements about them.

"Putin is a black lord who sits⁤ on the throne stroking his crystal ball laughing. Other russians are his hostages who are⁣ desperately trying to flee the country for good". This sort of nonsense.

But there're even⁢ russians who think this way too 🙂 I'd say. That's how good US and EU propaganda︀ have been.
 
Honestly, I'm in the defence field, and⁠ I didn't expect this war to go that bad for Russia. I honestly thought that⁤ Russia would win pretty quick with minimal push back. I thought Ukrainian resistance or support⁣ from the world wouldn't be nearly as strong as it is. Its very impressive to⁢ see a country like Ukraine come together with the world behind it.

There are many︀ more weaknesses, but if you want to look into them yourself here is a good︁ start:

- Lack of air superiority and the importance of this in warfare. You can︂ compare how America took control of the skies of Iraq very quickly before even setting︃ a foot. Or how Israel took control of the skies during the first phase of︄ the six day war. This should have been a model for Russia's war (its against︅ their neighbour for a year - still no air superiority from either side).
Russia vastly︆ outnumbers Ukraine in terms of air power. They should have easily won the skies in︇ the first few days if they had any fighting ability.

- Allowing NCOs and lower︈ level officers more independence and decision making. This is HUGE. In most western countries post︉ WW2, they learned to give lower level troops and officers a lot of say in︊ how things go. This is different from how the Russians control things from the top︋ down. Most autocratic countries have a top down approach to prevent revolutions within. In most︌ democratic countries the lower level soldiers on the ground make decisions on the go. In︍ the Russian military the leaders just send them wherever and tell them to hold the︎ position or whatever. This is what the British and others did pre-WW2 before entire units️ were totally wiped out and they realized how poor this approach works.
"In the United‌ States armed services, it is said that the Non-Commissioned Officers and the junior officers are‍ the backbones."

- Modern logistics and supply of materials. They can't helicopter drop things like⁠ they should be able to, their logistics depends on railway lines (lol), no palettes to⁤ transport things in bulk meaning ammo depos are a mess and the most dangerous place⁣ in the world.

- Sending their military trainers to the front lines, meaning the Russian⁢ military will be permanently changed by this war, and it will further decrease their combat︀ effectiveness if they were to fight another war. Additionally, with the demographics of Russia (decreasing︁ population) it even further decreases their ability to fight in the next war.

- Use︂ of low quantity and expensive missiles to target civilians rather than military targets. Although the︃ plan of these attacks is to lower troop morale, it does the opposite. This effect︄ is proven from the WW2 bombings on London. The 'near miss' effect of surviving a︅ blast actually causes a net morale increase, meaning they are spending expensive weapons to INCREASE︆ the morale of Ukraine.

If you go through those conflicts and the lessons learned from︇ each, you will see how Russia's tactics are unchanged from over a hundred years ago.︈ What a joke.

Keep in mind, I'm not an American, and before the war I︉ was condo shopping in Russia. That doesn't change the fact that objectively, this war is︊ a complete mess for Russia.
 
i guess we have different sources. Im also not American 😉

Based on my︈ sources, I have a hard time believing Ukraine is “winning” insofar one can ever speak︉ from winning a war.

Time will tell and in the mean time I wish for︊ a quick solution. People have suffered enough already.
 
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