Navalny is no more ;)

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When I see answers like this, I ask myself:‌ If the West is so good, what are you doing here? Surely, the overlords and‍ slave masters are NOT taking almost or more than 50% of the fruits of your⁠ labor, right? 🙄

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Confirm for yourself: Most prisoners per capita by country 2024 | Statista

Never been in a Russian prison! Never ever.︀ But I have been in a US one while fighting my case. You have NO︁ idea what you are talking about. I have firsthand knowledge! If you say you have︂ been in a Russian prison, let's compare notes then. 😉

Ever heard of "diesel therapy"? dev56"""
 
If you think the cause⁣ of the Maidan Coup was the EU accession agreement, then I've got a Palauan passport⁢ to sell you.
 
jafo said:
Surely, the overlords and slave masters are NOT taking almost or more than 50% of the fruits of your labor, right? 🙄
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here is an example of Italian taxation on corporate gross profits of €150k (2 shareholders). It can be worse than that in many cases depending on various factors.

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Funny how you interpret our desire for justice and‍ fairness as "anti-West"? 😛
Reveals too much about your character, frankly! 😉

I reckon the following is⁠ really going to hurt your insula and dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (DLPFC), but here we go:⁤
  1. The fact that I want to see a glorified pedophile vermin like Jimmy Savile and⁣ his sycophants brought back from death and punished (read "Abu Ghraibed") doesn't make⁢ me "anti-West" any more than
  2. me wanting to see Viktor Lishavsky of Amursk (Russia), another︀ despicable pedophile, put on the rack, make me "pro-West".
Is this "juxtapositioning" getting through to︁ you? Notice it is NOT mutually exclusive? 🙄

Enjoy...

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Your statements give NEW meaning to hoisted on his own petard... 😉

The ONLY︄ reason I did NOT move to China earlier is because
  1. My "correct" Chinese was sufficient︅ to negotiate prices, order food, get Didi, check into a hotel, etc., but it was︆ NOT sufficient to be accepted to a top-tier Chinese engineering University 😉
  2. Also, to the Chinese︇ I've ALWAYS been considered a Western "Gweilo" and it took decades for them to "trust"︈ me 😉
In the following discussion, you can see that about a week ago I told︉ another OCT member that I was heading to China (for at least 10 years?), so︊ I could pursue a huge project I have...

Look at the date! 😉
Before you tell︋ me about freedoms, democracy etc etc, just bear in mind that my value system "may"︌ be different than yours.

  1. I value manufacturing (I am an engineer and that was my︍ major since almost ~4 decades ago)
  2. I value peace. I'm NOT interested in spewing hatred︎ against others, protesting, complaining, or "fake" freedom of speech, and if I can't be peacefully️ around my own people (the EU) because "they" keep sabotaging & voting to bring in‌ "thieves, rapists, color revolutionists, and proselytizers" whom I have to pay for then I would‍ rather be around people that are the EXACT opposite...even if they do NOT look like⁠ me (but at least like hard-working Western men with discipline) 😉
  3. I value economic freedom. I've⁤ written about this before. China doesn't care when €500 million hits your Chinese bank account.⁣ Assuming that is profit, they take their 25% and leave you alone. How can you⁢ argue with that? 🙄
  4. In essence, I want what this lady has:





In summary, I have︀ to get my OWN hands dirty and simultaneously push the Chinese engineers (and Koreans and︁ Japanese and Russians etc) to work harder and faster so we can have Doctor Robots︂ (and nurse robots) that can assist us in daily life chores because the types of︃ good men that are on OCT are a dying breed. There will be a point︄ that even if we have the best intentions and live near one another...we won't be︅ physically able to help one another. We need a solution to this and we need︆ it fast. 😎

Are you serious?
Holy moly!
No wonder︉ 2 of my cousins who tried to open their own business in Italy went bankrupt︊ cry&¤
I feel horrible now because I thought (obviously I was wrong as H3LL) that they︋ only went bankrupt due to poor financial discipline stupi#21 . I'm grateful that I kept my︌ comments and opinions to myself. damn_(
Like WTF???!!!

I feel so bad now...
 
One more heartbreaking story is how another anti western *really︇ really* wants to move to russia or China, but for *some reason* can't move there.︈ Oh yes, yes, and prefer Switzerland instead. Poor suffering soul...

You could put another 100500︉ words here, but your actions tell everything, despite your mouth on the opposite side.
My discussion with you, jafo, is over in this thread.
 
NGL, never heard of this 🙄

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I spend more time OUT of Monaco and⁢ Switzerland (only "Western countries" I spend any significant time in) than in them. My IP︀ can easily reveal this 😛

The girls in "other" places are less "selective" rof/% 😉

PS. I haven't︁ visited the US since 2009 and I'm NOT planning to do it either 😉
 
The West is not _so_ good, but it is decent and better by almost⁤ metrics than the earlier mentioned sh*tholes like Russia, China or similar.

There are plenty of⁣ tax planning opportunities in the UK, Switzerland, Monaco, Cyprus, Malta, Portugal, Romania, Bulgaria, hell even⁢ Serbia. There is a reason why Russians with half a brain move there as soon︀ as they get their hands on a little bit of money.

Regarding the "more than︁ 50%" part, Russia has 20% VAT, 20% corporate tax, CFC rules and whatnot. So cut︂ the bullsh*t...
 
I keep reading that Navalny was jabbed multiple times with Pfizer. And died of a‌ blood clot.

No good source on that so completely unconfirmed so take with a pinch‍ of salt but one to keep any eye on.
 
Possible, but apparently bruises were found on his body. However, Pfizer or not, Russia is still⁠ and will always be a sh*thole smi(&%
 
jafo said:
Are you serious?
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jafo said:
Holy moly!
No wonder 2 of my cousins who tried to open their own business in Italy went bankrupt cry&¤
I feel horrible now because I thought (obviously I was wrong as H3LL) that they only went bankrupt due to poor financial discipline stupi#21 . I'm grateful that I kept my comments and opinions to myself. damn_(
Like WTF???!!!

I feel so bad now...
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obviously you have to evade taxes in Italy one way or another if you want to survive. Everybody does that. Unless you fall in one of those categories that benefit from exemptions etc. That'sthe democratic West: Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges

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I haven't heard this since‌ my dad passed away in 1984.
It's only gotten worse 🙄

Same as in Monaco then! 😉
rof/% Thank you for reminding us why you are here on OCT since in⁠ the West we pay much "lower" than 20% /s 😛

How did you forget the horrible⁤ PIT in Russia? 😛

Are we witnessing the side-effects of the Stockholm Syndrome through you? 😳

Why do you care to defend your torturer, abuser, and financial rapist so much? 🙄

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And California has the highest PIT in the US but also the highest salaries. It's not‌ all about tax.
I'm not paying any personal income taxes in my EU home country.⁤ Yes, zero. I'm exempted in full until a certain age, and then I'll relocate to⁣ Cyprus which is an EU country and also a country to which Russians are moving⁢ to.
It's better︁ to pay, say, 25% instead of 20% than having to give a percentage of your︂ company to an oligarch.
 
This type of thinking is what‍ is wrong with the world! It's absolutely mind-boggling to me how a person can think⁠ this way. Hey, but to each their own. 😉

There! I⁣ fixed it for you! 😉

Any wealthy Russian who moves to a Western country now deserves⁢ more mistreatment than ANY punishment he can endure. The writing is on the wall! dev56"""
 
So much about the high tax West: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/08/bez...berg-icahn-and-soros-pay-little-in-taxes.html

Please find me⁠ the same info regarding Russia. Oh wait, turns out there are no billionaires there except⁤ for Putin's oligarchs aka his nominee UBOs. Everyone else already moved out to the UK,⁣ Cyprus, Monaco or some other decent country.

I have no problem with that as long as︀ one admits Russia is a sh*thole
 
You should be useful to OCT then and explain how you are doing‌ this so others can take advantage of it. That's what the forum is form. When‍ can we expect a how-to-do-it step-by-step from you?
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OK. Whatever. Who knows why you are⁤ so concerned with others trying to leave the EU? I don't get it. Maybe you⁣ have a stake in some of us hanging around to finance your "zero-income tax and⁢ that of Soros"????

I don't care if you move to North Korea or some African︀ country tomorrow. I'm NOT going to try to stop you! Why should I? I got︁ NO dog in that fight. Just weird control-freak behavior. Good luck!
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There's not much to⁠ it - you need to be a resident of a Croatia, younger than 25 and⁤ employed by a local company. You get the PIT you've paid during the previous year⁣ in June and the company is exempt from paying healthcare insurance until you're 30 years⁢ old.

Very funny -︀ if Russia is not a shithole, why are people moving out of there instead of︁ vice versa? For the record Croatia is somewhat of a shithole as well; I don't︂ actually live there anymore.

You've mixed something up, I don't have anything against people moving︆ out of the EU.
 
And? 50%-70% cut is better than get all︁ your wealth stolen and put to the jail forever, eventually get killed, right?

https://www.rfi.fr/ru/rossiya/20161...akifa-sayadova-ili-novyi-sposob-otzhat-bizneshttps://www.kp.ru/daily/27053.5/4119497/https://pasmi.ru/archive/178815/
Sure, KGB (FSS now) will let you officially know how many they've killed in︂ their prisons. Don't make me laugh. They still hide tons of docs about USSR crimes︃ in archives.

Renounce all your passports, get russian citizenship, do a business and just wait︄ a bit. Enjoy russian prison. Why you're not raising kids in russia btw?

It's also︅ strange how your bad US experience make russia great & everybody else bad even though︆ I'm not protecting any of the bad West & simply stressing that russia is much︇ more worse that any bad experience you can get in developed countries.
 
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