movings funds out of joint account with urgency: ideas?

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Marriage is currently falling apart, the wife seems to be having a a crisis / breakdown and (from my point view) is acting crazy. Details not important.

Got about $80k in a joint account, that would legally be mine (I had it in savings fro mbefore marriage, but we spent it over the years, but through work the money is in the account) but with her acting crazy, I don't trust her.

Problem is, I do not live in my home country (UK). I live in her home country (Ecuador). So sending the money here to my personal account "might" make it easier for her to claim 50% of.

I have an unused Transferwise and bankera account.
Another problem is, the money in the account is from freelancing work online where tax wasn't paid. It all went through paypal and my UK persona, then I would transfer here. Tax no owed to UK as am not resident. Tax should have been declared in Ecuador, but no one pays tax and well I didn't get round to sorting it out.


Do I have any options? Open a bank account somewhere? onshore / offshore what country? Move (x) amount to it? Possible? Risks?


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Totally normal sadly.

So original 80k is gone⁣ and new 80k in joint account is earned during marriage? If so money is both⁢ of yours. Anyway if you don't trust her you should NEVER have got married.....lol.

She is entitled to︂ half the money if I understand correctly. The money was earned during the marriage after︃ original 80k spent or not?

Yikes. So you have undeclared income and a wife that could take that︅ income from the joint account. Not good. You need to get legal advice and ask︆ the bank to freeze the account in the meantime. Try and work things out with︇ her and buy yourself time to come up with a proper solution to the crisis.︈

If freezing does not work you can try Ital bank in Puerto Rico to hold︉ half the money temporarily. Don't take it all. But moving money is NO real solution︊ and can just make matters legally worse so speak to lawyer. Money is both of︋ yours and you are depriving her of access to it by moving it if you︌ do so. She will be the victim in such a case if money is moved︍ as this may cause her unnecessary hardship....but I don't know in an out of you︎ and your wife's finances.
 
Not looking like any chance of working things out. She's going down the path of‌ conspiracy and last weekend converted to Islam, although admits she knows nothing about it and‍ converted so she can learn. Whole thing is a fucking mess. She has agreed verbally⁠ personal assets we had before marriage are ours to keep, she has taken out an⁤ inheritance she got from grandmother. But she is unaware of what would have been my⁣ personal assets which would be more than hers.

Although it's a joint account she doesn't⁢ have access as doesn't remember her passwords and I've always handled transferring money from UK︀ to our Ec bank. So I just want what has been agreed to (verbally) as︁ mine out before she decides to donate it all to the mosque or whatever crazy︂ bulls**t she will do next.

I did, hence the joint account. But alas, she's gone︄ off the deep end.

And she won't have any unnecessary hardship, she is, as always︅ has been leeching off me and will for the next 16 years based on what︆ I need to keep paying her (according to lawyer). The money I want moved out︇ as it's there to pay for kids' education / university. Always meant to get it︈ into a savings account just never got round to it.

But yes as you say,︉ the whole thing is a mess and probably I am going to make things worse︊ - but let's hope not eh?
 
Well don't wanna discourage you but youre a gringo in a latam country going against‌ a local (assuming she is ecuadorian )...
Better to make a deal and try to‍ negotiate a clean cut and look around elsewhere.
 
id just take what is yours, file for dissolution of the marriage, and leave the‌ country.
 
Ok so your money is safe.

I would definitely think about your safety first. If‌ she has totally lost her mind then you don't want to meet with her without‍ a lawyer present. She can claim anything including you assaulted her or abused her verbally⁠ or physically etc. You could end up in harms way on trumped up charges. Stay⁤ the hell away from her. Let your lawyer deal with it all. Hell have no⁣ fury like a woman scorned.
 
Take what you can, hide the overseas cash. Buy a one way ticket out and‌ get home safely. Its a bad situation but better to cut your ties and go‍ now with what you have and the nest egg in touch. If she comes after⁠ you for money in the UK get your lawyer to say she is not of⁤ sound mind and before a case can be brought you want a physiological evaluation done⁣ by a registered uk doctor and have it bought before the court.
 
No I've not‌ thank god. But I've had friends go through similar in Thailand and uae etc. Best‍ to go with what you can get and your sanity than stay and lose everything⁠ and become suicidal or locked up.
 
Yeah your right I guess. Some of these banana republics the legal system is not‌ impartial enough to stay and fight a case especially if your a gringo.
 
This is what happens to most men when they meet a Latin (and younger then them)⁠ lady, which will make them crazy, "horizontally" speaking, and make them forget about some basic⁤ principles about marrigage or any sort of contract they sign into.
 
This is the better solution out there .... if there are no kids⁢ involved. They are the biggest leverage over you if this is the case.
 
Not an option as would have to leave the kids with her and⁢ as she isn't just "focusing on her happiness" is somewhat neglecting them (not neglect neglect,︀ just not taking take of them as good as usual). It's like a text book︁ mid life crisis, but the whole religion conversion thing just adds another dimension to it,︂ that people tell me "she has another man (muslim) somewhere and had to convert in︃ order to marry again" which makes sense. Either that or she's being scammed online in︄ some vein, but she's being erratic that even her friends had confided in me she︅ isn't acting like herself

yes this is a worry, especially as the laws are all set up︈ to f**k the father other.

Situation isn't quite that (although she did make︌ me crazy horizontally haha). She's the same age (give or take a year) and met︍ her when was a dirty penniless barefoot hippy travelling through central / south america 16︎ years ago. Been married 15 years and got 3 kids.

Am actually quite worried for️ her, separation is one thing, sad but happens, but this crazy bulls**t! Ignoring the concern‌ for her personal safety, worried that she'll end up "investing" the money (she said this‍ the other day) to some scam confidence man online she has "fallen in love with"⁠ and it's the kids who will suffer as those funds are for private education /⁤ univerisity.

so ignoring the advice to not do it, how much can I transfer to⁣ transferwise / bankera without trigging issues? 5k? 10k? 20k? 50k? 100k? $5?
 
Golden Word,
When you are rich, It is‍ better to stay single , have fun and keep spending money on yourself .Finding Love⁠ for rich men is like finding "philosopher’s stone". Because In today world, When you get⁤ married , today or tomorrow ,wife finds divorce alimony more appealing than the husband.

Even staying away from making so called "friend", They will show you their true color when⁣ you face difficulty in Life.
When you have money, Always Keep in mind that "Everybody⁢ Has an Agenda"

You have to constantly question the motives of everyone you interact with.︀
Being rich and careless is not good combination in today's world.

People love to put︁ you down when you are rich. They are only nice when they want something from︂ you.
People who you help you most or get most benefit out of you are︃ the One who enjoy your downfall.
 
Damn I feel for you. Difficult to say︁ what to do the more I hear about your story 😕.

Yeah good luck to a rich man trying to find a woman who︄ really loves him. You need to be like Akeem from Coming to America and pretend︅ your poor to find real love. Otherwise you will just hit gold digger after gold︆ digger.
 
You need to know the right place to look for it.. Don’t pretend finding the‌ “love of your life” at some wild party (you could buy highly improbably smi(&%) or‍ something like that.
It depends on what values and behaviors are you looking at. Of⁠ course at a show off place like Dubai or expensive places maybe you’ll find but⁤ mostly you’ll find gold diggers that will approach you with interest behind.
Try at the⁣ supermarket or stuff like that lol.
 
So a rich man won't end up with a gold digger if they look for a‌ woman in their local supermarket your saying? ns2
 
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