Metal plate where you engrave your seed phrase

[CEO]

Your seed, your money

Paper doesn’t survive. Premium metal does.

Yoseyomo® | Crypto Seed Vault

Discover the secure element that will revolutionize the way you store and preserve your crypto seed words.

www.yoseyomo.com

 

[JohnnyDoe]

The idea is good (and old), but have you ever tried to engrave something on metal? Not as easy as it might seem.

 

[CEO]

The idea is good (and old), but have you ever tried to engrave something on metal? Not as easy as it might seem.

How it works.

Get started

Discover the secure element that will revolutionize the way you store and preserve your crypto seed words.

www.yoseyomo.com

 

[JohnnyDoe]

How it works.

Get started

Discover the secure element that will revolutionize the way you store and preserve your crypto seed words.

www.yoseyomo.com

Smart, bust still the engraving (or better in this case, punching) process is a pain in the ass, especially on titanium.
A better idea is to buy a laser engraver from Amazon and use your own surface.

 

[CEO]

A better idea is to buy a laser engraver from Amazon and use your own surface.

This is a good idea to sell but don't engrave the plain text, the concept yoseyomo brought is preferred.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

This is a good idea to sell but don't engrave the plain text, the concept yoseyomo brought is preferred.

It’s a nice concept, but will you or your heirs know how to decipher it in some years?

 

[CEO]

It’s a nice concept, but will you or your heirs know how to decipher it in some years?

LMAO.
I can't tell but finding a way to decipher it is very important. The wordlist is available online and you have to save it locally and in the cloud.

 

[void]

your seed backups should be easy to destroy - it's a feature not a bug - paper or any seemingly weak solution is actually the ideal one as the security of the solution is not achieved via durability

any seed backup is extremely dangerous if it represents the private key on it's own - you need multisig or shamir chunks and/or passphrase

these metal toys are fancy but hassle when it comes to engraving the seed and a nightmare when you need to get rid of it

 

[JohnnyDoe]

your seed backups should be easy to destroy

But still durable enough. There are special kind of papers that are water and crease resistant. You can write on them with waterproof ink and you will be quite safe.

- it's a feature not a bug -

MS has too much influence 🙄

paper or any seemingly weak solution is actually the ideal one as the security of the solution is not achieved via durability

The real risks are theft and accidental loss.

any seed backup is extremely dangerous if it represents the private key on it's own - you need multisig or shamir chunks and/or passphrase

What is Shamir backup?

Shamir backup (available on the Trezor Safe 5, Safe 3 and Model T) is an advanced security standard that counteracts the two greatest risks involved in protecting your recovery seed: theft and destruction.

trezor.io

these metal toys are fancy but hassle when it comes to engraving the seed and a nightmare when you need to get rid of it

And they really attract attention.

 

[void]

MS has too much influence 🙄

does MS stand for Microsoft or MicroStrategy here? 🙂
either way this expression is used in IT sector for at least 30 years, still kind of cool....

 

[JohnnyDoe]

does MS stand for Microsoft or MicroStrategy here? 🙂

Michael Saylor, the Meme Salesman.

either way this expression is used in IT sector for at least 30 years, still kind of cool....

He is abusing of it. Go explain to STRC shareholders how cool the volatility feature is.

Out of curiosity, how does he keep all his btc safe?

 

[void]

Michael Saylor, the Meme Salesman.

He is abusing of it.

it's (over)used by many tech-background guys but he is the most visible one recently

Go explain to STRC shareholders how cool the volatility feature is.

why am I pushed to advocate here? 😉
it's supposed to be less volatile than bitcoin in exchange for diminished yield... that's what it does... unless you choose to look at the worst period of time to prove otherwise - which is exactly what people tend to do to prove their point when it comes to all the assets

Out of curiosity, how does he keep all his btc safe?

it was disclosed many times that they (allegedly) use number of corporate custodians (Coinbase was the only publicly mentioned as far as I remember) in a multisig scheme

some believe Strategy doesn't even own as much BTC as they declare - I'm not one of them