Market crash portfolio?

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Hey guys!

I am pretty conservatively investing into ETFs (World etc.).
But one could also use a couple of global acting companies with a global exposure to "imitate" a world portfolio.

It would be interesting to see such a portfolio and to pick the stocks which lost the most during the recent crash.
Focusing on the "crash titles" could bring high returns when the market will switch.

Any ideas on this "stock picking" suggestion?

Greetings
 
Zaiga said:
Zaiga said:
It would be interesting to see such a portfolio and to pick the stocks which lost the most during the recent crash.
Focusing on the "crash titles" could bring high returns when the market will switch.
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Do you not think there is a reason why they crashed the most? Or you feel the market and every professional investor has got it wrong on these stocks?

Zaiga said:
Zaiga said:
Any ideas on this "stock picking" suggestion?
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Buy a global index and sleep well at night. I wouldnt bother with such a strategy unless its play money your using. A portfolios performance comes via its diversification not the concentration.

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Martin Everson said:
Martin Everson said:
Do you not think there is a reason why they crashed the most? Or you feel the market and every professional investor has got it wrong on these stocks?



Buy a global index and sleep well at night. I wouldnt bother with such a strategy unless its play money your using. A portfolios performance comes via its diversification not the concentration.
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Like I've written, I own a global index portfolio. But I like individual stocks, as they eliminate the ETF in between. Just wanted to know if anyone has a global portfolio without an index ETF
 
Zaiga said:
Zaiga said:
Like I've written, I own a global index portfolio. But I like individual stocks, as they eliminate the ETF in between. Just wanted to know if anyone has a global portfolio without an index ETF
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Well, we discussed it a few weeks ago.
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Of course, these are not crash-stocks. However, the mentioned companies cover the globe, are more efficient than an ETF by simply avoiding the "lame ducks" every index contains and will be around for the next 100 years or so.
Going bottom fishing by looking for crash stocks is too dangerous. It's not investing, it's casino gambling!
In the current environment you have to find a balance between risk and reward. Stick with large globally operating companies who pay high dividends.
 
backpacker said:
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Well, we discussed it a few weeks ago.
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Of course, these are not crash-stocks. However, the mentioned companies cover the globe, are more efficient than an ETF by simply avoiding the "lame ducks" every index contains and will be around for the next 100 years or so.
Going bottom fishing by looking for crash stocks is too dangerous. It's not investing, it's casino gambling!
In the current environment you have to find a balance between risk and reward. Stick with large globally operating companies who pay high dividends.
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Thank you for your reply.
You mentioned a couple of companies like "Unilever, Nestlé, P&G, perhaps even BAT", but do you've also full "portfolio of 20+ companies" ?
I would be very interested to see such a stock portfolio.

Greetings!
 
Zaiga said:
Zaiga said:
Thank you for your reply.
You mentioned a couple of companies like "Unilever, Nestlé, P&G, perhaps even BAT", but do you've also full "portfolio of 20+ companies" ?
I would be very interested to see such a stock portfolio.

Greetings!
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No, not 20+. I consider this too many for an individual investor. In that case you are indeed better off with an ETF.
See, the point of investing in large globally operating companies with high dividends is to achieve -with a handful of individual stocks- a slightly better result than with an index-ETF. Mainly through dividends, not capital gains. Time horizon: 10 years.
 
369 said:
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germand and uk high energy/gas consuming companies
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Why? Do you expect the energy situation (gas in particular) in these two countries to normalize anytime soon??
Germany + UK both have no commodities and are now forced to buy expensive from "friendly nations" 🙄 at very unfavorable conditions. I think high energy/gas consuming companies in these two countries will be at a permanent disadvantage compared to its competition in other parts of the world.
 
backpacker said:
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Why? Do you expect the energy situation (gas in particular) in these two countries to normalize anytime soon??
Germany + UK both have no commodities and are now forced to buy expensive from "friendly nations" 🙄 at very unfavorable conditions. I think high energy/gas consuming companies in these two countries will be at a permanent disadvantage compared to its competition in other parts of the world.
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Correct i meant to short them.Thats a secure bet
 
Martin Everson said:
Martin Everson said:
Buy a global index and sleep well at night. I wouldnt bother with such a strategy unless its play money your using. A portfolios performance comes via its diversification not the concentration.
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100% that.

I would also add that your strategy will only work if these companies survive.

The lower these stocks crash, the more attractive they are to scavengers (private equity) that will just buy them out. Some of them definitely will go bankrupt or will just be taken private at a very low valuation and will never recover to their prior highs.

TL;DR: don't waste your time, even if you beat the market (which you won't) it will be at a higher volatility and your extra performance won't compensate you for that
 
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Someone making headlines with outrages predictions -> Bitcoin could fall to $3.5K as recession intensifies and stocks collapse - Gareth Soloway eek¤%&
If he is right, even a global Index investment won't let you sleep well at night.
Open for discussion ... 🙄
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... and here -> Bitcoin price will hit $100K in 2023; Stocks, crypto to see 'bull market' - Tone Vays eek¤%& we have the exact opposite.
Useless predictions ban-:; !
 
backpacker said:
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That's a crash nobody seems to notice -> U.S.-listed Chinese stocks drop 20% after Beijing's power reshuffle makes the market 'uninvestable'
It started already a while ago. Hang Seng has almost halfed.
And it's just getting worse with all the tensions and warmongering around Taiwan. Definitely an uninvestable market for the forseeable future.
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its about the semiconductors.US/Biden removed in a single decission all semicondutors for china
 
369 said:
369 said:
its about the semiconductors.US/Biden removed in a single decission all semicondutors for china
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Biden did that almost three weeks ago. Today's crash has nothing to do with it. It is just because of Xi and his diffuse geopolitical and economic policies + COVID craze. Personality cult is never good for financial markets.
 
backpacker said:
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Biden did that almost three weeks ago. Today's crash has nothing to do with it. It is just because of Xi and his diffuse geopolitical and economic policies + COVID craze. Personality cult is never good for financial markets.
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Xi or anybody else would not change anything.
Don't get fooled that china and US are not coworking in implementing total control mechanism to ALL citizens.
The hard drop is about the semiconductors and forcast of a big conflict with China which both sides planned together to suck out peoples wealth
 
369 said:
369 said:
Xi or anybody else would not change anything.
Don't get fooled that china and US are not coworking in implementing total control mechanism to ALL citizens.
The hard drop is about the semiconductors and forcast of a big conflict with China which both sides planned together to suck out peoples wealth
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Ever thought about self-referral?
 
Martin Everson said:
Martin Everson said:
Buy a global index and sleep well at night. I wouldnt bother with such a strategy unless its play money your using. A portfolios performance comes via its diversification not the concentration.
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As usually the Wise words from Martin, following his advise is never wrong... almost never 😉

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