Looking for a business partner (payment processing, promising new website)

[Edward Collins]

I am working on a website which is very similar to ZoomInfo (market cap. in the billions).

The site is leadsfocus.com Currently there are 10M leads, but this is growing by 30k per day.

I am looking for a partner who can process payments. Essentially, this would involve PayPal, Stripe or similar code being added to the website. The partner would keep a percentage of the funds and send the rest to me in bitcoin. Very low maintenance and potentially very lucrative.

I do not want to deal with hacked accounts or upfront fees.

I am also very keen to hear advice on how I should proceed.

Last edited: Oct 15, 2022

 

[Sols]

Why don't you just form a company and open your own Stripe and PayPal account?

Is there something about the business or its activities that prevent that?

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This is the probably the answer to your question.

 

[Spinat]

Sols said:
Why don't you just form a company and open your own Stripe and PayPal account?
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That would also be my question. If everything is clean and nice you don't need a partner for it??

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[MiddleEuroAsia]

Edward Collins said:
I am working on a website which is very similar to ZoomInfo (market cap. in the billions).

The site is leadsfocus.com Currently there are 10M leads, but this is growing by 30k per day.

I am looking for a partner who can process payments. Essentially, this would involve PayPal, Stripe or similar code being added to the website. The partner would keep a percentage of the funds and send the rest to me in bitcoin. Very low maintenance and potentially very lucrative.

I do not want to deal with hacked accounts or upfront fees.

I am also very keen to hear advice on how I should proceed.
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I'm sorry but I have to play the devil's advocate here, this sound too good to be true. is there anything that makes you not able to do this by yourself.
for example, it would make sense if you are Russian, or a PEP. you need the payment to also be made in BTC, so not excactly "Anonymity" that your after, since you would XMR if that's the case.
Clarify your needs a little bit better, so people in this forum can help you with your needs!

 

[Edward Collins]

My method of collecting the data is not totally legitimate. If you visit leadsfocus.com with that in mind then you should be able to get an idea of what I am doing. I will provide a full rundown privately for anyone who is interested in taking this further.

This is one of those grey areas. This type of data is bought, scraped, traded and the rules are widely ignored, even by major companies. If you research my competitors, they provide opaque explanations like "we rely on algorithms and our partners to gather the data".

I am tempted to do this myself, but I am a cautious person.

So whoever joins me in this venture will gain a percentage of the revenue without doing any work. He will either be prepared to take on a minimal risk personally or have structures in place to totally protect himself.

Sols said:
Why don't you just form a company and open your own Stripe and PayPal account?

Is there something about the business or its activities that prevent that?
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Good question, replied below.

MiddleEuroAsia said:
I'm sorry but I have to play the devil's advocate here, this sound too good to be true. is there anything that makes you not able to do this by yourself.
for example, it would make sense if you are Russian, or a PEP. you need the payment to also be made in BTC, so not excactly "Anonymity" that your after, since you would XMR if that's the case.
Clarify your needs a little bit better, so people in this forum can help you with your needs!
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Hi, thanks for getting back to me. Fair points. I just posted my reason for not doing this myself. Regarding monero, possibly... What I am doing is pretty vanilla so I am not sure whether that level of anonymity is necessary. But yes, monero would probably be preferable to bitcoin for everyone.

Sols said:
Why don't you just form a company and open your own Stripe and PayPal account?

Is there something about the business or its activities that prevent that?
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Good point. Sorry for not clarifying that. See my post above.

Spinat said:
That would also be my question. If everything is clean and nice you don't need a partner for it??
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Good point. Sorry for not clarifying that. See my post above.

Last edited: Oct 15, 2022

 

[MiddleEuroAsia]

Edward Collins said:
My method of collecting the data is not totally legitimate. If you visit leadsfocus.com with that in mind then you should be able to get an idea of what I am doing. I will provide a full rundown privately for anyone who is interested in taking this further.

This is one of those grey areas. This type of data is bought, scraped, traded and the rules are widely ignored, even by major companies. If you research my competitors, they provide opaque explanations like "we rely on algorithms and our partners to gather the data".

I am tempted to do this myself, but I am a cautious person.

So whoever joins me in this venture will gain a percentage of the revenue without doing any work. He will either be prepared to take on a minimal risk personally or have structures in place to totally protect himself.


Good question, replied below.


Hi, thanks for getting back to me. Fair points. I just posted my reason for not doing this myself. Regarding monero, possibly... What I am doing is pretty vanilla so I am not sure whether that level of anonymity is necessary. But yes, monero would probably be preferable to bitcoin for everyone.


Good point. Sorry for not clarifying that. See my post above.


Good point. Sorry for not clarifying that. See my post above.
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interested, will see if it's viable or not.

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[Martin Everson]

Edward Collins said:
This is one of those grey areas. This type of data is bought, scraped, traded and the rules are widely ignored, even by major companies. If you research my competitors, they provide opaque explanations like "we rely on algorithms and our partners to gather the data".
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Ok I see. Zoominfo did the same. It scrapes personal and business data from LinkedIn profiles and then sells it to public. Had to contact them to remove my data at one point. Risky business model if data is not obtained without consent or data is not clearly public (which mine was not) or dubious means are used to obtain data.

You should be careful in this area as you will get sued if you don't at least offer a quick 1 minute solution for people to remove their data.

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[Edward Collins]

Martin Everson said:
Ok I see. Zoominfo did the same. It scrapes personal and business data from LinkedIn profiles and then sells it to public. Had to contact them to remove my data at one point. Risky business model if data is not obtained without consent or data is not clearly public (which mine was not) or dubious means are used to obtain data.

You should be careful in this area as you will get sued if you don't at least offer a quick 1 minute solution for people to remove their data.
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ZoomInfo has a market capitalization of 16.9 billion dollars (billion with a "b").
Yes, remove my profile feature to be implemented.
LinkedIn data is public. You need to combine the public data with the private contact details.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

Edward Collins said:
ZoomInfo has a market capitalization of 16.9 billion dollars (billion with a "b").
Yes, remove my profile feature to be implemented.
LinkedIn data is public. You need to combine the public data with the private contact details.
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You have a pm

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[Edward Collins]

JohnnyDoe said:
You have a pm
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Thanks for reaching out. Just need a few days to get back to you.

 

[Spinat]

@Edward Collins so you did not put this into production yet? Do such service only sell data or do they also offer emailing to such leads, filtering leads etc?

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[Edward Collins]

Spinat said:
@Edward Collins so you did not put this into production yet? Do such service only sell data or do they also offer emailing to such leads, filtering leads etc?
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You can filter the leads on the site. Possible to bundle in an email marketing service later. Yes, pre-launch at this stage.

 

[Edward Collins]

Martin Everson said:
Ok I see. Zoominfo did the same. It scrapes personal and business data from LinkedIn profiles and then sells it to public. Had to contact them to remove my data at one point. Risky business model if data is not obtained without consent or data is not clearly public (which mine was not) or dubious means are used to obtain data.

You should be careful in this area as you will get sued if you don't at least offer a quick 1 minute solution for people to remove their data.
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Do you have any advice for me regarding how to solve this issue?

 

[Edward Collins]

Spinat said:
@Edward Collins so you did not put this into production yet? Do such service only sell data or do they also offer emailing to such leads, filtering leads etc?
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Any advice for me?