Italy bans 48 porn sites “for your safety”. The state as your digital parent.

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Starting November 12, Italians will need to prove they’re 18 before seeing a naked body online. The official excuse: “protecting minors”. The real reason: control.

48t sites, including Pornhub, Xvideos, OnlyFans, Chaturbate, must submit to Agcom’s new decree, born out of the Decreto Caivano, a law inspired by a tragic crime that had absolutely nothing to do with pornography. When politicians want to expand surveillance, they always borrow someone’s tragedy.

They call it the “principle of double anonymity”, as if slapping privacy vocabulary on censorship makes it noble. In reality, it means yet another layer of digital ID management: an external company verifying your age before you can even think about desire. A bureaucratic condom on your internet connection.

Porn has always been the testing ground for censorship. In the 19th century they banned erotic books “to defend morality”. In the 20th century, films were cut frame by frame in the name of “decency”. Now they regulate pixels under “child protection”.
Every age uses lust as an excuse to police freedom. Because sex is the most private act, and the easiest way to make people surrender privacy “for the greater good”.

Today it’s porn. Tomorrow it’s “disinformation”. Then “tax evasion,” “hate speech,” or “unverified finance”. Once you normalize identity checks for arousal, identity checks for opinions are just a software update away.
Porn is freedom. Crusades against porn are attacks to our freedom.

Italy's got this longstanding habit of dressing up submission as "civility". But that's just the gradual strangling of what it means to be an adult.
A state that needs to see your ID before letting you fantasize is not protecting you, it's reminding you who’s in charge.

Source article: 48 siti porno non saranno più “liberamente” accessibili in Italia, servirà dimostrare di avere 18 anni
 
I am free to express my feelings and share thoughts and personal opinions like JohnLocke 😊.

I agree in this specific thing not massive control, first of all I it hurts tons of people worldwide, second. what's behind the scenes is worst it's a real mafia, laundering money, human trafficking and so on.. The same crap is happening in gambling industry I shared a black hat investigation on the topic.
 
I am free to express my feelings and share thoughts and personal opinions like JohnLocke 😊.

I agree in this specific thing not massive control, first of all I it hurts tons of people worldwide, second. what's behind the scenes is worst it's a real mafia, laundering money, human trafficking and so on.. The same crap is happening in gambling industry I shared a black hat investigation on the topic.
You are free to dislike it and don’t watch porn. Nobody forces you to watch it.
Parents are supposed to educate their kids, not the state.
Freedom of expression cannot be limited or controlled in any way.
 
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You are free to dislike it and don’t watch porn. Nobody forces you to watch it.
Parents are supposed to educate their kids, not the state.
Freedom of expression cannot be limited or controlled in any way.
Sometimes parents are not doing the right thing towards their children (mentally, spiritually, physically). So someone else will do.
 
I can see both sides to the argument. Without enforcement of the illegal side (which there is barely as it is a "no ones problem") there will be loads of human trafficking and illegal sh*t in this business. On the other hand, freedom of expression must be cherished. In my opinion it just works to the opposite end, people who want to access these sites will start using VPNs, possibly increasing their usage as they now have had to 'invest' time and money into their habits. Especially for kids, once they lean how to bypass parental controls they will go to the worst of the worst instead of just regular bad. Hence it is extremely important to discuss the internet with your kids, what they are doing (to a reasonable extent, no need for spyware) and be open about this stuff.
 
No. The state must never decide what is right and what is wrong for its citizens.
Who is going to decide? Aliens 🤔
State should put requirements to marry and to have babies ex. 6 month course with certification 😉 how to grow kids, communicate with partner etc..

God guide us to the straight path. Ameen.
 
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Without enforcement of the illegal side
Every human activity can have an illegal side. You don’t ban it just to prevent it from happening (which anyway doesn’t work).
Especially for kids, once they lean how to bypass parental controls they will go to the worst of the worst instead of just regular bad. Hence it is extremely important to discuss the internet with your kids, what they are doing (to a reasonable extent, no need for spyware) and be open about this stuff.
This.
Kids are sentient human beings, not idiots, like all citizens. They need knowledge, from which freedom derives.

Who is going to decide? Aliens 🤔
Not the state.
State should put requirements to marry and to have babies ex. 6 month course with certification 😉 how to grow kids, communicate with partner etc..
Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan are good examples.
God guide us to the straight path. Ameen.
Which god is the right one? Thankfully the state will decide for us 😉
 
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In a communist regime, the state decides for its citizens and dictates what they must do. But does anyone truly want to live under communism?

History shows that when a state (which defines itself as non-communist) restricts its citizens’ freedoms, it is rarely for the reasons it claims. More often, such control is used to tighten power over the population and to use the information gathered against people.
 
And I am quite sure he never said anything against porn
I don't care who watch porn, my main concern who created it and why.
In my religion. He did, other religion maybe not.

My question. Why do I have to watch porn if I can do ethically legally healthy Sexual relationship with my future wife for love and to have kids? If it's necessary
 
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In my religion. He did, other religion maybe not.
curious to read his words on porn.
My question. Why do I have to watch porn if I can do ethically legally healthy Sexual relationship with my future wife for love and to have kids? If it's necessary
You don't have to watch porn. You can watch it if you like it. Doing so doesn't prevent you from having a ethically legally healthy sexual relationship with your future wife. You might even learn a trick or two to make her happier :smuggrin:
 
In a communist regime, the state decides for its citizens and dictates what they must do. But does anyone truly want to live under communism?

History shows that when a state (which defines itself as non-communist) restricts its citizens’ freedoms, it is rarely for the reasons it claims. More often, such control is used to tighten power over the population and to use the information gathered against people.
Same in every dictatorship.
The state is the problem, not the solution to your problems.
 
You don't have to watch porn. You can watch it if you like it. Doing so doesn't prevent you from having a ethically legally healthy sexual relationship with your future wife. You might even learn a trick or two to make her happier :smuggrin:
I had a good book to learn some tricks, just illustration not real body.
 
Surah an Nur - Light (Chapter 24). Quran
This is an interpretation of a piece of a 7th century manuscript compiled by various authors that doesn’t describe images, film, or even consent. Let's call it an iron age prohibition generalized centuries later to fit modern mental problems and to justify suppression.
Everyone is free to follow the teachings of any book they choose, provided it doesn’t restrict the freedom of others.
 
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