How & Why the EU Can Confiscate Your Wealth If You Can’t Explain It
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In theory, in their fantasy: YES! In practice, "H3LL NO". cry&¤
Ponder on this...in my fantasy, knocking out Mike Tyson would be amazing, but in reality, his defense is impregnable smi(&% and I am going to miss and his counter punch is going to be devastating for me and a lot of (miracle) work for my oral surgeon and brain surgeon rof/%
Ponder on this...in my fantasy, knocking out Mike Tyson would be amazing, but in reality, his defense is impregnable smi(&% and I am going to miss and his counter punch is going to be devastating for me and a lot of (miracle) work for my oral surgeon and brain surgeon rof/%
It's not a legal requirement to have a passport to open a bank FYI, and as it stands, it's also not a requirement to provide the bank your place of birth.
In addition in the future there won't be banks, not like today, it will one way or the other be a decentralised network of wallets, or a centralised state owned allocated wallet.
In addition in the future there won't be banks, not like today, it will one way or the other be a decentralised network of wallets, or a centralised state owned allocated wallet.
Banks have to do a KyC as standard - but that doesn’t necessary mean they need a passport.
You can open accounts with proof of︀ identity and proof of address.
Proof of identity can be a driving license, a birth︁ certificate etc all based on where you are opening it etc.
I.e my driving license︂ (Asia/UK) doesn’t have my location (city etc) of birth just year and country.
Now if︃ you are a Mohammad and sorts that means there’s x million Mos born in x︄ country over x years and x number of Mos born in one day of the︅ month of the year.
As long as location isnt enforced or NI or similar then︆ there’s no match (for Americans that’s social security numbers - they are fucked) for UK︇ it’s our National Insurance numbers and that isn’t something required outside of the UK and︈ I’ve never been asked in the UK before leaving so the match is Name, DOB︉ and Address, address only works if you are a voter (registered) so its name DOB︊ and unmatched address if not registered voter supplemented by proof of address from another record︋ type (phone, contracts, rent, etc)
You can open accounts with proof of︀ identity and proof of address.
Proof of identity can be a driving license, a birth︁ certificate etc all based on where you are opening it etc.
I.e my driving license︂ (Asia/UK) doesn’t have my location (city etc) of birth just year and country.
Now if︃ you are a Mohammad and sorts that means there’s x million Mos born in x︄ country over x years and x number of Mos born in one day of the︅ month of the year.
As long as location isnt enforced or NI or similar then︆ there’s no match (for Americans that’s social security numbers - they are fucked) for UK︇ it’s our National Insurance numbers and that isn’t something required outside of the UK and︈ I’ve never been asked in the UK before leaving so the match is Name, DOB︉ and Address, address only works if you are a voter (registered) so its name DOB︊ and unmatched address if not registered voter supplemented by proof of address from another record︋ type (phone, contracts, rent, etc)
It's very unsettling to read in this thread, and had I not been on OCT for so long, I would say, ah, just another doomsday prophecy from screen junkies who have no idea what they're talking about. But unfortunately, some users here on the forum have been right a little too often about what they wrote a few years back.
The uncertainty about who is right and whose prediction will come true has diminished, and one should probably take precautions.
The question is, what do all of you plan to do about it and how will you protect yourselves against what is going to happen?︀
The uncertainty about who is right and whose prediction will come true has diminished, and one should probably take precautions.
The question is, what do all of you plan to do about it and how will you protect yourselves against what is going to happen?︀
In many European countries you can forget to open an account with (just) your drivers license. It has to be a passport or an ID card. In some occasions a secondary form of ID is even requested and this is where your drivers license has a role. Some cases being for instance when you have a generic name which hits in a︀ watchlist database based on name and birthdate.
In theory your explanation works. Practically I have︁ my doubts.
In theory your explanation works. Practically I have︁ my doubts.
100% correct in your observation.
My strategy is to apply︁ inverse thinking and doomsday preparation. Will it happen? I hope not but I sleep better︂ at night knowing I am prepared for doomsday.
Kind of like falling asleep in a︃ car as a passenger with my seatbelt on and in front of a working airbag.︄ I really hope nothing happens but if it does, my odds of survival are a︅ bit better.
My strategy is to apply︁ inverse thinking and doomsday preparation. Will it happen? I hope not but I sleep better︂ at night knowing I am prepared for doomsday.
Kind of like falling asleep in a︃ car as a passenger with my seatbelt on and in front of a working airbag.︄ I really hope nothing happens but if it does, my odds of survival are a︅ bit better.
Sure some things may have changed.
You are already in well enough standard preparation to live off the bitcoin︄ standard i'd imagine, especially if you reside in South America, Africa, not so much Asia︅ mind.
You are already in well enough standard preparation to live off the bitcoin︄ standard i'd imagine, especially if you reside in South America, Africa, not so much Asia︅ mind.
In Italy to open a bank account (and to do every other thing, including having a simple cell phone line) you︀ need both identity card AND codice fiscale (tax code). I don’t know in other countries︁ in the EURSS but I guess it is not so different.
Kind of crazy when you consider it just for a cell phone, i remember the days you could just buy a sim and top up.
I imagine then the data (calls) are feeding into the NSA.
To put into perspective, I previously worked for a blue chip company in the infrastructure sector, there's a building in London, where all data flows through (i know where) and as part of that, all Voice, SMS (then), Data, Visual (TV) has a lag from 'live' to end︀ user as it goes through a huge filtering process for tagging and compiling under anti-terrorism︁ .
So when it comes to 'these sorts of sims' etc i imagine the data︂ collection will be vast.
To overcome this you route coms via channels where security is︃ baked in by law or by technology.
To put into perspective, I previously worked for a blue chip company in the infrastructure sector, there's a building in London, where all data flows through (i know where) and as part of that, all Voice, SMS (then), Data, Visual (TV) has a lag from 'live' to end︀ user as it goes through a huge filtering process for tagging and compiling under anti-terrorism︁ .
So when it comes to 'these sorts of sims' etc i imagine the data︂ collection will be vast.
To overcome this you route coms via channels where security is︃ baked in by law or by technology.
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