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How to become tax resident in Thailand? (I got rejected)

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I recently got rejected a Tax ID Number (TIN) from the Revenue Department in Thailand, after staying more than 6 months last year in Thailand.

They said that I must have a "long term" visa, and that neither the education visa that I have, nor an Elite visa, are valid to be a tax resident in Thailand.

How is that possible? Shouldn't you be allowed to pay taxes in the country if you are spending the majority of the year in it?

I need the tax id to show it to the bank on my local country, in order to avoid my account getting blocked. - Is there any other option I have to get a TIN to use for my local banks?
 
Maybe try another officer. That’s usually how it’s works in Thailand. But yes I know‌ a lot of people are sent away when they try to pay tax with education‍ or elite visa.

Or ask small accounting office.
 
Dependent on your country of citizenship that︁ might work to your advantage.

For example good friend of mine had residence in HK︂ but was a specialist engineer flying world wide for his role.

He had zero tax︃ in HK and had zero tax elsewhere because he wasn’t resident - he didn’t have︄ to report to Australia as he was non resident for x amount of years.

Basically tax nomad free.

HK only charged tax on income in HK which was zero.

,,

Same applies in Thailand based on the descriptive you’ve given above.

Just because there’s no︅ tax in Thailand based on the descriptive above doesn’t mean you have to provide you︆ paid tax to your home country or the banks there.

You merely provided them your︇ address in Thailand and they do the CRS reporting as standard - a TIN is︈ not essential it just makes their life easier as it gets auto routed.

As it︉ stands you are in the Goldilocks zone of “tax nomad” by force from the Thai︊ tax department and you just need to push your banks to do reporting the standard︋ way - i.e this is my address and here is proof and oh there’s no︌ TIN as I don’t work in Thailand.
 
try reason c - no tin required︁ on the crs form. (reason a is for the uae and similar places folks)
 
My bank in Spain is forcing me to submit a form︇ with a Thai TIN, or they say that my account will get frozen in 7︈ days.

I have also asked an agent here, and he got rejected at the Revenue︉ Department after paying him 10K Baht to get the TIN.

I have heard that another︊ option would be to set up a Thai company to get a work permit and︋ TIN. The agent is also talking about getting a "Non-O visa", but not sure about︌ the cost and requirements.

I hope they are not trying for force foreigners to get︍ a "high net worth visa by investment", as some agents have mentioned me about it.︎
 
That doesn’t come with a tin (investment visa) - it’s an investment - I︁ was previously on that (discussed elsewhere).

TIN is usually granted when you have a formal︂ income in Thailand - I had previously.

I guess you can make one up and︃ hope lol

Mind mine is different to the newer ones these days but I always︄ stick that in if asked.

If you need a Thai company dependent where you are︅ I have a dormant one - 4m paid up capital think that’s 2/4 work permits︆ mind you won’t get the work permits quickly - thus Tins
 
Imagine setting up a Thai company with work permit and everything (requires hiring 4︁ Thais, etc.) just to get a TIN lol.

Obviously your agent realized that you're open︂ to being milked after you paid him 10k baht to get a TIN. I don't︃ know why you're still talking to that scammer. He will keep proposing you visas and︄ whatever he can at severely inflated prices.
 
If you have a savings account the bank pays you some interest while they withdraw‌ a % for tax. You can claim a TIN to get a refund since you‍ are a tourist. Maybe that would work.
 
It looks like this:
099-1-00xxxxxx-x

Not sure if it's same for all‍ foreigners, but I've seen a few and they all start with that.
With some luck,⁠ your bank doesn't ask for documentation. It's been seen before.
 
Which means that you are not requested to pay taxes if you stay longer than‌ 6 months in Thailand with an Elite Visa? as they refuse to give you a‍ tax ID..?
 
Elite Visa is seen as a tourist via⁠ and not a long term visa, which is why.
Education Visa is for education only⁤ and not permitted to work and that's why they reject a TIN.

But with that⁣ said... I'm sure with the right accounting contact, that it can happen.
 
Couldn't tell you why it's in that category.
I first heard‍ about it, when some with Elite Visa was only given 2 years driving license, instead⁠ of 5 years on extension. They were given that reason.
 
I am more worried of the opposite. I read somewhere that by spending more than‌ 6 months in Thailand, you might be requested to pay taxes- regardless of the visa‍ status. Good to know they "refuse" to get money 🙂
 
Normally driving license is 1 yr, 2yr, 5yr.

Then onwards 5yr.‍

Elite (i have) is 5yr, etc onwards but it's a "tourist⁤ visa" - > Visa is not relevant to tax location, i.e 179/180 days = tax⁣ required.

Just go there with proof of owed tax and funds and they will issue⁢ a TIN and take your funds.
 
The first time you⁠ apply for a driving licence in Thailand you get a 2-year probationary licence regardless of⁤ the type of visa. At the first renewal you'll get a 5-year renewable one (granted⁣ you still meet the conditions).
 
I think that you might have wanted to quote someone else. I⁣ also have the Elite, I was just asking him how it is possible that a⁢ 5-years visa isn't considered as a long-term visa.
 
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