How do you think about the Vaccine from Pfizer?

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polonieth said:
If you'd like to point me in the direction of an RCT that shows masks prevent the spread of respiratory viruses I will gladly read it. The reason I don't wear one is that the science of the last 40 years shows they are at best useless and at worst have negative impacts elsewhere.

I am healthy, I don't have the virus (or if I do, I'm completely asymptomatic and therefore do not spread it), so why would I wear a mask?

If I'm sick, I stay home, as we've done for every other coronavirus or flu. I decide when I'm better to go out again, not the state.
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I don't like mandatory anything, And although I'm skeptic about masks, wearing one is not that big of a deal for me and It's not the kind of the hill that I wish to die on.

I look at it in that way, A) if the mask is working and preventing me from getting covid, then it's a great thing and I have no problem wearing it. B) If the mask is not working, then it's also a great thing as it's good for privacy and it's good against certain facial recognition systems. Although, I like to admit that it became easier to detect people even when they are wearing masks. But it's a good practice nonetheless.

Here's a piece that talks about scientific double standards when it comes to face mask: The Face Mask Debate Reveals a Scientific Double Standard

And I have to say that this is surprising to say the least, when you consider that the story came from wired.
 
Hopefully the vaccines stop the disease symptoms (they seem to quite reliably) and the spread. If not, then we will see the media and many peoples' heads explode.

On December 8, Chief Scientific Adviser to the Government of the United Kingdom Sir Patrick Vallance talked about wearing masks through the Winter of 2021/2022. He said “We don't know yet how good all the vaccines are going to be at preventing the transmission of the virus".

And yet people are basically saying "No immunity passports to reward those bad people who had the virus (and are very unlikely to be contagious again). Immunity passports must only be for good people who had the vaccine (and might now become silent spreaders)".
 
MiddleEuroAsia said:
If the mask is not working, then it's also a great thing as it's good for privacy and it's good against certain facial recognition systems.
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Baseball cap pulled down and face mask works great for some at ATM's with cameras I suppose smi(&%

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MiddleEuroAsia said:
I don't like mandatory anything, And although I'm skeptic about masks, wearing one is not that big of a deal for me and It's not the kind of the hill that I wish to die on.

I look at it in that way, A) if the mask is working and preventing me from getting covid, then it's a great thing and I have no problem wearing it. B) If the mask is not working, then it's also a great thing as it's good for privacy and it's good against certain facial recognition systems. Although, I like to admit that it became easier to detect people even when they are wearing masks. But it's a good practice nonetheless.

Here's a piece that talks about scientific double standards when it comes to face mask: The Face Mask Debate Reveals a Scientific Double Standard

And I have to say that this is surprising to say the least, when you consider that the story came from wired.
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A mask is dehumanising. It's like the hijab.

I don't wear one because the evidence they work is not there. Until it's provided, I don't wear one. And does a virus with a 99.9% survival rate really require them?

If uneducated lemmings want to comply with no further questioning then that's fine but I find it sad seeing swathes of zombies all masked up in shopping centres.

I read the wired article, I am not sure you can equate hand washing with mask wearing.

What if wearing a mask makes you more likely to develop other illnesses? Something which some of the trials have shown. The recent Danish mask study likely showed this too but looks like it was removed just to get it finally published.
 
Who would have thought that in 2020 that I would be able to walk into a bank with a black mask and walk up to the counter without being looked at like a robber. Amazing how times have changed 🙄.

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polonieth said:
A mask is dehumanising. It's like the hijab.

I don't wear one because the evidence they work is not there. Until it's provided, I don't wear one. And does a virus with a 99.9% survival rate really require them?

If uneducated lemmings want to comply with no further questioning then that's fine but I find it sad seeing swathes of zombies all masked up in shopping centres.

I read the wired article, I am not sure you can equate hand washing with mask wearing.

What if wearing a mask makes you more likely to develop other illnesses? Something which some of the trials have shown. The recent Danish mask study likely showed this too but looks like it was removed just to get it finally published.
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Meh, it's not surprising that most people comply with Authority type figures and moves with the crowd without really questioning anything, Look at n**i germany for example, or better yet, look at snowden leaks!

Did people really give a crap about the excessive spying that their government are doing on them? No, and it became even worse when a lot of people are not only giving their data and whole life to the US government, but to the CCP too through apps like tiktok.

a lot of people are really brainwashed and just follow one political party or specific belief and they block every other arguments and live in their own safe bubble. And this goes for ultra nationalistic nut jobs , Hardcore libtards and tree huggers, both are stupid and easily controlled.

now when it comes to this danish study, I'm quite skeptic. As it's only one study and although the difference between people who wear masks and who didn't is minimal, there is still a difference about .

Also, the study didn't monitor the participants to make sure that they actually did wear their masks properly.
what they did is asking people how well they thought they did with compliance. and more than half admitted that they didn't wear their masks perfectly.

we can't just point at one study and said "Aha, Gotcha!" no we need to look at everything that is surrounding this study and analyze it carefully, like who are the people/institutions that are sponsoring this study and whether they benefit from it or not...etc.

For example, Like this study that said:
" Avocado Consumption Alters Gastrointestinal Bacteria Abundance among Adults who are overweight, and People who ate avocado every day had a greater abundance of gut microbes that break down fiber and produce metabolites that support gut health."
And who are the ones sponsoring this study, the Hass Avocado Board, lmao rof/%.

So, you need to be careful when you read these "scientific" studies and wait until its peer reviewed and you should read it yourself and account every little thing that these studies mention in their papers.

If every thing is "scientific" these days we can look at study like this that says:

"People with beliefs in conspiracy theories have a cognitive bias known as the jumping to conclusion (JTC) bias, the tendency to perform hasty decisions based on little evidence, and a preference for an intuitive general thinking style, as opposed to analytical thinking."

And we can say "wow, so people who follow conspiracy theories are brain dead and follow their beliefs and pseudo science instead of real science and logic".

So, you need to read this studies with Extra grain of salt, and in general, a healthy skepticism is not a bad thing 😉
 
Martin Everson said:
Who would have thought that in 2020 that I would be able to walk into a bank with a black mask and walk up to the counter without being looked at like a robber. Amazing how times have changed 🙄.
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You can do every thing in 2020, you can even enter women's bathroom if you just feel like you identify as one.

No judgment for people who do smi(&%
 
cough cough if we could live another 5 years . the liedemic is nothing but lame biological weapon and fear monger spread by media .
 
MiddleEuroAsia said:
Meh, it's not surprising that most people comply with Authority type figures and moves with the crowd without really questioning anything, Look at n**i germany for example, or better yet, look at snowden leaks!

Did people really give a crap about the excessive spying that their government are doing on them? No, and it became even worse when a lot of people are not only giving their data and whole life to the US government, but to the CCP too through apps like tiktok.

a lot of people are really brainwashed and just follow one political party or specific belief and they block every other arguments and live in their own safe bubble. And this goes for ultra nationalistic nut jobs , Hardcore libtards and tree huggers, both are stupid and easily controlled.

now when it comes to this danish study, I'm quite skeptic. As it's only one study and although the difference between people who wear masks and who didn't is minimal, there is still a difference about .

Also, the study didn't monitor the participants to make sure that they actually did wear their masks properly.
what they did is asking people how well they thought they did with compliance. and more than half admitted that they didn't wear their masks perfectly.

we can't just point at one study and said "Aha, Gotcha!" no we need to look at everything that is surrounding this study and analyze it carefully, like who are the people/institutions that are sponsoring this study and whether they benefit from it or not...etc.

For example, Like this study that said:
" Avocado Consumption Alters Gastrointestinal Bacteria Abundance among Adults who are overweight, and People who ate avocado every day had a greater abundance of gut microbes that break down fiber and produce metabolites that support gut health."
And who are the ones sponsoring this study, the Hass Avocado Board, lmao rof/%.

So, you need to be careful when you read these "scientific" studies and wait until its peer reviewed and you should read it yourself and account every little thing that these studies mention in their papers.

If every thing is "scientific" these days we can look at study like this that says:

"People with beliefs in conspiracy theories have a cognitive bias known as the jumping to conclusion (JTC) bias, the tendency to perform hasty decisions based on little evidence, and a preference for an intuitive general thinking style, as opposed to analytical thinking."

And we can say "wow, so people who follow conspiracy theories are brain dead and follow their beliefs and pseudo science instead of real science and logic".

So, you need to read this studies with Extra grain of salt, and in general, a healthy skepticism is not a bad thing 😉
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The Danish Mask Study was a well designed randomised control trial. And it's the only one specific to covid 19. I don't think you can really be skeptical of it or say take it with a grain of salt, it's a simple study with clear outcomes.

They also held off publishing it as a pre print, instead waiting for a high quality journal to peer review it and publish it. Despite several journals refusing to. Which I assume it because some of the other impacts from mask wearing in the study were negative. As well as them having no impact of preventing the spread of covid.

This isn't some observational study.
 
Martin Everson said:
This is exactly how I am thinking 🙁



This is what I fear 🙁

Nothing about this pandemic makes sense. From saying it started from some market in Wuhan where someone munched on a half cooked bat or whatever to how it spread globally. It seems almost deliberate or an experiment gone wrong like the below one the UK did on the UK population.

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I wouldn't be surprised if in a year from now it will be found out that side effect of the virus is infertility ange¤%&
 
MiddleEuroAsia said:
I agree, you just need to add sunglasses and the package is complete 😎.
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Due to corona I got stuck in the city where my two girlfriends live. I was wearing the mask like it was part of my face, together baseball cap and sunglasses everywhere outside (even shops and malls when they opened again). TBH, mask was a lifesaver... ange¤%&
 
I don't mind wearing a mask, it helps hide my identity and protects from cold weather. No proof was provided that coronavirus came out laboratory and in my opinion the great reset or depopulation are just conspiracy theories but we shall see
 
I'm very disturbed by all the information, what is wrong and what is not, maybe we will never figure it out or see any side effects cry&¤
 
kkein said:
I wouldn't be surprised if in a year from now it will be found out that side effect of the virus is infertility
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Well we are half way there sadly 😕. They say so far it can cause erectile dysfunction in men.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/yes-covid-19-can-cause-erectile-dysfunction-in-men/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7355084/

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Yup operation fear in full effect. Next they will bring out a man on camera who claims his dick fell off because of covid.

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