Hope no one is using Ghost.

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never heard about it before now. Interesting.
 
exactly, I do not know‌ your background but if I with a "tech" background haven't heard about some "encrypted communication‍ app" it is very likely that this app was created by the 3-letters to infiltrate⁠ this particular gang.
a proper encrypted communication app must, at least:
- be public
- have open source code
- allow to self-host (install your own server)

otherwise it is⁤ neither encrypted (as you can't verify that) nor secure (as you have to hand your⁣ data to a 3rd party server)
 
Rocket.chat for the‌ broad audience, Matrix for some, XMPP/Jabber for command line lovers, Tox for criminals, Briar for‍ schizos
 
XMPP had been around for ages. Even Google and Facebook had servers. With‌ an encryption plug in is it quite good.

Of course we are then back at‍ the mail server discussion where you need to choose either to use a public server,⁠ where you leave metadata, or you host yourself, where you leave information about the existence⁤ of your server and maybe domain.
 
Beacuse they try to hide those apps from the general public as much as‍ possible. If those apps get into the hands of CCC or heise, they will write⁠ how much they leak and how insecure they are.
 
Ghost was well-known in its niche, but eventually, owners of these platforms have to make‌ a choice: surrender your customers or get slapped with 'bogus' charges. Every communication platform that‍ has 'ECC' in its name is a red flag for many, except if you are⁠ low-hanging fruit.

Threema, Wickr, and Wire are good commercial solutions if you can deploy them⁤ on-premises yourself. I've conducted assessments when some legitimate users were looking into these platforms. Even⁣ then, I wouldn't consider them more secure than the alternatives. Overcomplicating things is where the⁢ big money is in security, but I can guarantee that simplicity is undervalued.
 
thank you for elaborating it makes good sense, I have no clue otherwise.
 
I'm laughing at this! How can so many people be so‍ gullible? Crack seed phrase on the phone? Like WTF???!!!
I don't even use 2FA and⁠ my bank app on the same device. The email is on another device etc.
Literally, you can't break in unless you have the correct SIM and the correct adapter installed....⁤ Box - Products

F*cking #Amaterus! smi(&% rof/%

PS. Well, it's good these retards are getting caught... It⁣ gives the p1gs a false sense of security. 😉
 
When you are low IQ and⁢ you purchase snake oil, this scenario becomes inevitable. Reminds me of those guys who take︀ 2-3 kickboxing classes and think they can outfight the rest of the world.
 
I like SimpleX chat too. Its‍ open source, code audited by trial of bits, and decentralized. It doesn't need a phone⁠ number and it doesn't use usernames. Multi platform support. Everything E2EE.

You can have multiple⁤ profiles within the app, or use incognito profiles which don't reveal your username to anyone⁣ you talk to.

Routes messages through different server paths to prevent timing correlation.

The main⁢ plus for me is lack of usernames (and incognito mode). If you are talking to︀ various contacts, it prevents them from being able to determine if they are all talking︁ to the same person, or many different people.

https://simplex.chat/
 
are they better than Skype, why isn't skype popoular any‍ longer ?

I never used ghost.
 
never heard of any of them.‍

Would be nice to get some input from @mraleph and others with tech background.
 
I've read controversial opinions about Simplex, also it is not︁ mature yet and could contain various bugs and vulnerabilities.
so I haven't tried it myself︂ yet, but possibly will in the future.
 
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