Guide to Buying Crypto Without KYC Verification - Top 10 Platforms Included

[jafo]

JohnLocke said:
Now I get curious. What if the last address is going to a Kraken or Binance exchange, from there the USDT was exchanged to FIAT then exchanged back to USDT and then transferred to another USDT in a cold wallet - how likely is it that this can be traced and frozen then?
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I don't know, as I NEVER go to an exchange! EVER!

jafo said:
Once that payment dips into my USDT accounts, it's "exchanged" within seconds (10% of the time), or it is paid to a supplier (90% of the time).
I NEVER EVER reuse an address. NEVER!
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When I say exchange, I am talking about the "group/society" (the neighbors) I wrote about in the past here: Unlock the Gates of Success: Mentor Group Gold!

See Section (B).

So I have NO use for exchanges. How the "group/society" does it is a mystery to me, and I have NEVER asked. The way snitches/informants and undercover work is by asking intrusive questions, so I do NOT ask ANY questions! I'm far away from home there, and NOBODY would hear me falling in the forest hi%#

JohnLocke said:
BTW you mean the below DAI - it is the one I can find for the cold wallet among 8 - 10 others.
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Yes! DAI is "somewhat" decentralized. Monero and Bitcoin are the only ones that adhere to full RIPCORD (that I know of).

 

[bubbledouble]

gh0p said:
They can however report the initial address which in turn will get the funds frozen by the CEX at least temporarily while they look at the claim.
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what if you already have moved the cryptos from there in the meantime?

Kim-OTC said:
TradeOgre lists around 150 cryptocurrencies, as well as a few stablecoins. It was established in 2008 and has a strong focus on privacy and anonymity.
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they look appealing to me, will try.

 

[aage]

Kim-OTC said:
CoinEx deals with over 600 investment tools, including cryptocurrencies. It offers various promotions and rewards, as well as low fees.
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Try them some time ago, they didn't work out well because they closed my account! I send only 300.000 euro to them which got an immediately ban and freeze, after 3 months and lawyers letters they gave me my money.

 

[jafo]

aage said:
Try them some time ago, they didn't work out well because they closed my account! I send only 300.000 euro to them which got an immediately ban and freeze, after 3 months and lawyers letters they gave me my money.
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It shocks me that these companies do this and "get away" with it. If I did this to my clients, I'd be six feet under yesterday! hi%#
Sean Strickland is right! We've become too soft! stupi#21

 

[gh0p]

bubbledouble said:
what if you already have moved the cryptos from there in the meantime?
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They can investigate where the withdraw was to. Say you withdraw from that CEX to some local OTC company that exchange to fiat for you. They'll contact that company and request information and so on especially if its an active police investigation. If you used banks to withdraw potentially they can flag your bank accounts and that can get you in all sorts of issues with current and later on in new accounts opening etc. While recovery of the funds might not be possible it certainly can impact your life should you have used your name everywhere.

If however those funds are sitting in the blockchain still they can flag the address used for withdraw (or whereever the chain leads them to) making it very hard to exchange without raising any red flags.

 

[aniglo22]

All bigger exchanges have a LERS ( Law Enforcement Request System) , where law enforcement can get access to user information very easily and automatically. Most exchanges use kodex . For example binance : Kodex

 

[jafo]

aniglo22 said:
exchanges
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Source: Bitcoin Whitepaper!


PS. It is so shocking to me how many crypto users somehow missed the "TRUST" references in Bitcoin's White Paper or believe they are SMARTER and SAVVIER than Satoshi Nakamoto! ca#"!
How can so many people overestimate their own intelligence? 😳
What am I missing? 🙄

 

[aniglo22]

jafo said:
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Source: Bitcoin Whitepaper!


PS. It is so shocking to me how many crypto users somehow missed the "TRUST" references in Bitcoin's White Paper or believe they are SMARTER and SAVVIER than Satoshi Nakamoto! ca#"!
How can so many people overestimate their own intelligence? 😳
What am I missing? 🙄
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Laziness

 

[jafo]

aniglo22 said:
Laziness
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Yeah... I suspected that! Coincidentally, today @JohnnyDoe brought up the sin of "sloth" in another thread. Once more, I suspect he is correct! He hits the bullseye every single time! coo-:!y

 

[JohnLocke]

Although I think it is a very interesting discussion, we have gone completely off topic here. Can we please get back to the subject in the headline? I will create a new thread for all the many irrelevant comments.

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[DeepDrilling]

The way I've obtained a wallet (up to many) is by finding a ghost address, setting up a mailbox with a fake name, etc., and getting Ledger and Trezor wallets sent to this address. No one can ever trace the wallet back to me. And, of course, it's not sent to the country I live in.

It's easy to find abandoned houses and places where you can set up a mailbox.

So everything else you're doing here doesn't concern me. I never receive cryptos directly to these addresses, and before any cryptos come here, I've exchanged them to FIAT after putting them through a bitcoin mixer over to XMR and then moved them in smaller amounts afterwards. So try to trace it; I wish you good luck.

 

[Houdini]

How would you say that it is going long term without KYC ? does it mean that we can avoid it or will coins in non KYC'ed wallets be blocked in a few years?

What's your thoughts?

 

[5K1PP3R]

Can I use these exchanges to buy from my business accounts?

 

[EliasIT]

5K1PP3R said:
Can I use these exchanges to buy from my business accounts?
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if you do so you can also do KYC doh948""

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[ImKing]

I'm using Exodus since a long time, I never looked after alternatives but will have a look at some of the mentioned wallets here.

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[bountymounty]

gh0p said:
I very much agree Changelly are absolute trash to use if you want non-KYC.
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I'm chocked to read this her and also in another thread. In the past I have been using changelly lots of times to exchange XMR to different currencies, I never got asked for any KYC

 

[jafo]

bountymounty said:
I'm chocked to read this her and also in another thread. In the past I have been using changelly lots of times to exchange XMR to different currencies, I never got asked for any KYC yet
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What's your frequency? Once per week, month, quarterly?

What are the amounts? <1K, >1K, >10K, <100K etc?

You may be able to help develop an "SOP" for the other OCT members on how to stay under their KYC radar. 😉

 

[wellington]

If you are doing this sort of trade - I.e China to Venezuela - doing in USDC or USDT is creating a target anyway.

UK private wealth invests in Venezuela as the sanctions are not fully encompassing - basically certain countries have certain types of trade and they moat it via certain payment rails and certain processes which takes it out of regulatory or jurisdiction capture.

So in this case I.e a person living in Europe with seemingly citizenship in Europe if there are no restrictions you'd do better to use Euro stables or even Singapore, but even then you can ofcourse just take BTC and price in volatility as part of the cost of doing business.

Just ensure those funds never make their way into dollars or the US system as you can be charged downstream for activities upstream which were completely legal.

bountymounty said:
I'm chocked to read this her and also in another thread. In the past I have been using changelly lots of times to exchange XMR to different currencies, I never got asked for any KYC
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I had a KYC with them a few years ago - was a corporate transfer USDC to USDT.

Released funds but yeh I wouldn't do anything sizable with them.

 

[jafo]

wellington said:
If you are doing this sort of trade - I.e China to Venezuela - doing in USDC or USDT is creating a target anyway.
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A target for what or whom?

 

[ImKing]

So, as long as one receives, for example, USDT and then converts it to FIAT and subsequently buys something like physical gold, a frozen address wouldn't matter. You can just create a new wallet. On the other hand, keeping your USDT requires some complicated maneuvers.

Does anyone know what happens if I have 100K USDT and pay a third party 50K of it, and then my remaining 50K gets frozen? Would the third party's wallet also be frozen?

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