Going the route Flag Theory, how does this looks?

[KDX]

Aren't we talking about⁠ what we would want to have? I mean, I even included UAE in my flag⁤ theory lol.

And as for dual citizenship, none of the countries I listed allow it,⁣ however you can get around that. But again, aren't we talking about our "dream setups"⁢ or whatever?

 

[Allisgood]

Ok I guess.
But you will never get Emirati citizenship either.

Whereas Switzerland and Luxembourg allow dual without any⁤ problems, so much better options vs Austrian for example.

If you have Austrian and you⁣ take on another one, even secretly, you automatically immediately lose your Austrian citizenship. So it’s⁢ very risky. If they ever find out about any other citizenship, your Austrian citizenship is︀ gone. Why risk it when you can chose countries that don’t care about dual.

 

[KDX]

Many great countries don't allow dual citizenship,⁢ but it doesn't matter as long as you don't flaunt it. (usually)

Did you not︀ read what people posted? Read what "flags" they posted. Such as BVI Aruba, Grenada, UK︁ islands, Curacao, Lichestein

Those are all difficult citizenships to obtain. We're talking about fantasy here.︂

If I really wanted to chase my dream citizenships here's probably what I'd go for:︃

1. Finnish (my current one)
2. PRC, HKSAR
3. Whatever country I want to settle︄ in

But realistically, I'm not going to spend 8-10 years just to get one of︅ my dream passports if I don't intend on staying in the country.

There is one︆ user here with a HK passport and 2nd citizenship. It may be a bit complex︇ and there's not a lot of info on it but, it's probably more common than︈ you think.

 

[Allisgood]

I guess. But I actually have multiple citizenships (more than 2, and working on the next︂ one). So I look at what’s realistic. I don’t bother with citizenships that don’t allow︃ dual. It’s not worth putting in the money and time just to have to be︄ secretive about it.
There are too many good options where you can be entirely legal.︅

 

[KDX]

Sure. But my native citizenship is recoverable so, even if I were to get "caught"⁣ I'd just renounce it. May I ask what citizenships you hold? Just curious.

 

[Allisgood]

It’s EU and non EU , but I would like to keep⁠ it private thu&¤#

 

[boomy]

how did you get them and where?

I wonder about the average costs for each for my self?

 

[Allisgood]

Descent and naturalisation. So hardly any cost‍ except time. Oh and I guess taxes in those countries. But didn’t mind as I⁠ benefited as well living there.

 

[Golden Fleece]

Austria's CBI program takes⁠ only two to three years and allows dual citizenship, but it is quite costly.
https://passports.io/citizenship/au...Act does not,his or her⁢ previous citizenship.
If Hungary and Poland work together against the EU's︁ socialist aggression and the people in those countries support their leaders, that will only make︂ those countries stronger. Their nationalist patriotism will outlast the EU, which will eventually fragment. That︃ is also another reason why it is worth holding onto a EU passport.

 

[KDX]

I wish there were stats on‍ how often countries (incl. Austria) request you to renounce one of your citizenships. Would be⁠ interesting

 

[Allisgood]

Yes but this is only really‍ an exception for those investors, which are a handful a year I believe. What I⁠ was talking about was the normal naturalisation route by living there for x years. Which⁤ would apply to normal people.

Plus Arnold Schwarzenegger as well: he got an exception to⁣ keep his Austrian citizenship when he became an American. But I don’t think this applies⁢ to most people.

 

[icecold]

This is one of the inspiring threads around OCT which I will have to think‌ about and do my drawings. Once I'm all clear to what flags I want to‍ rise I will post back here.

For now, thanks for bringing this to my attention.⁠

 

[uplana]

Sad to read that. I believe the War in Ukraine has‍ made Europe becoming much faster a hellhole!

 

[aage]

Flag 1 : Monaco
Flag 2 : Luxembourg
Flag 3 : Hawaii

 

[KDX]

You know that Hawaii is a part pf the US right? You'll be‌ paying tax to Uncle Sam no matter where you go...

 

[sonato]

What would‍ the tax rate be in Hawaii ?

 

[burden]

does this theory requires a second passport or just citizenship? I really don't understand the‌ differency, sorry for the stupid question.

 

[bonox]

I'm reading the thread with great pleasure, nothing I know about.

 

[bountymounty]

that's some good advise,⁠ I'm thinking of who to contact for sch service. Aren't there sellers around that offer⁤ to help with a second citizenship either in Panama, Switzerland or other ?

Second citizenship⁣ does not mean a second passport too right?

 

[KDX]

Citizenship is citizenship. Citizens are entitled to a passport.

If you wish to⁠ hold a national passport (not just a travel document), you are most certainly required to⁤ be a citizen.

No such thing in Switzerland or Panama. Look up: "Citizenship by Investment"⁣ on Google