Hello. For reasons I can't get into, I've been expecting for an influx of $250 Visa virtual gift cards (Visa® Virtual Account Gift Cards | GiftCards.com) to be sent to me via email (300+), though nothing has arrived in my inbox yet. It doesn't make sense, considering I'm pretty confident the orders have been placed, and their processing takes up to 24 hours at most. Is it a problem with them? Thanks for any help you can give.
Giftcards.com not delivering
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What do you suggest? If none of those cards go through, I'll be out $100k+. I'm not exactly innocent, though I'm not getting those cards for money laundering purposes. Those cards are "payments" from hundreds of people.
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GiftCards.com
Blackhawk Network
6220 Stoneridge Mall Road
Pleasanton, CA 94588
Phone #: (877) 944-3822
Fax #: (877) 781-5159
Why do not you wait for first card to arrive ?
Than step by step order others.
They will only can help you.
GiftCards.com
Blackhawk Network
6220 Stoneridge Mall Road
Pleasanton, CA 94588
Phone #: (877) 944-3822
Fax #: (877) 781-5159
Why do not you wait for first card to arrive ?
Than step by step order others.
Because I'm not really the one ordering them. Let's just say I've had 100+ people order me one $250 Visa gift card. I didn't really have control of when or how they did did it.
so contact that "100+ people" who order for you .
They can help you.
How can we help you in this matter ?
They can help you.
How can we help you in this matter ?
Yeah. Sadly, I can't really reach out to these people for reasons I can't say here. I was really just looking for advice.
I don't think you have many options. The way you're getting paid is high-risk. Complete loss of funds is one of those risks.
You can try filing complaints with Giftcard.com or its suppliers (Visa and MetaBank) or sue them, but chances are most of the outstanding gift cards are already or will be cancelled (and probably refunded) and the transactions bundled up into a Suspicious Activity Report sent to FinCEN.
The legal definitions of money laundering are very broad. This might not be money︂ laundering in the sense that you stole money or sold drugs, but if people are︃ paying you through hundreds of $250 gift cards instead of normal payment methods, it's probably︄ some form of money laundering or at least suspicious and risky enough that a channel︅ like this gets closed down.
You can try filing complaints with Giftcard.com or its suppliers (Visa and MetaBank) or sue them, but chances are most of the outstanding gift cards are already or will be cancelled (and probably refunded) and the transactions bundled up into a Suspicious Activity Report sent to FinCEN.
The legal definitions of money laundering are very broad. This might not be money︂ laundering in the sense that you stole money or sold drugs, but if people are︃ paying you through hundreds of $250 gift cards instead of normal payment methods, it's probably︄ some form of money laundering or at least suspicious and risky enough that a channel︅ like this gets closed down.
Yeah. It doesn't matter too much if I'm out $100k+ in︃ this context, since I can receive payment again. Next time, I'm gonna be using Vanilla︄ Visa (https://www.vanillagift.com/silver-gift-email) and having it come through in the form of $500 gift︅ cards. How many gift cards should I have ordered to one email account? I'll probably︆ be receiving more payment next time and I'm not planning on letting it go to︇ waste.
They key is to not deviate from normal expected customer behaviour. Anything you do that's not normal gets added to an ever-increasing risk score. Once you︀ hit a certain point, someone will start looking into you and your transactions.
More than︁ a couple of gift cards per person per month would probably get suspicious. Depending on︂ how sophisticated they are, you may need clean email, IP, name/address, phone number, and browser/device︃ for every account you create.
Another risk factor is whether the senders (payers) can become︄ a reliable tracking point. If Customer A sends 4 x $500 to you one month︅ and 4 x $500 to another account the next, the third or foruth month they︆ might be blocked.
In addition to have a steady supply of accounts (identities), you may︇ need to spread your risk across multiple websites.
More than︁ a couple of gift cards per person per month would probably get suspicious. Depending on︂ how sophisticated they are, you may need clean email, IP, name/address, phone number, and browser/device︃ for every account you create.
Another risk factor is whether the senders (payers) can become︄ a reliable tracking point. If Customer A sends 4 x $500 to you one month︅ and 4 x $500 to another account the next, the third or foruth month they︆ might be blocked.
In addition to have a steady supply of accounts (identities), you may︇ need to spread your risk across multiple websites.
Do you think that 10 cards︃ per email address is too much? I'm having exactly 300 of these cards sent to︄ me soon.
Ask yourself: would a normal, average user of that website get 10 gift cards for the exact same value at roughly the exact same time? Or would that be something highly indicative of some financial crime?
If I was running the risk and fraud department at Giftcard or VanillaGift, I would probably consider that type of behaviour as risky and take some form of action.
If I was running the risk and fraud department at Giftcard or VanillaGift, I would probably consider that type of behaviour as risky and take some form of action.
Yeah. I think I might just have my payers order the cards to their own personal email addresses, and just forward the email they receive to mine.
while this forum discuss progressive topics this type of black hat not intended here , you wont get most relevant answer .
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