Euro Pacific bank is a scam

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Pardon? Qenta was introduced and vetted by PS. PS wanted to sell EPB to Qenta.‌ When that failed because Qenta was not deemed fit and proper by OCIF he agreed‍ to asset deal to Qenta. The liquidator had ZERO to do with that.
The liquidator⁠ is not resposible for the Qenta fiasco at all
 
So it is not the liquidators responsibility to ensure that the funds of the depositors‌ are handled by a reliable institution?

Why does the liquidator or OCIF need to agree‍ with what PS wants?

Sure you could argue he was part of a conspiracy, but⁠ the real responsibility lies with the people who make the decisions and not with the⁤ people who don't.

How can Quenta both be fit and not fit at the same⁣ time?

If Quenta was not fit why did OCIF and Lugo agree to give the⁢ money to Quenta? Did they intentionally want to hurt depositors? I guess that would make︀ sense.
 
Sorry it makes zero sense to argue with you. It is evident from what you‌ write that you have no experience and knowledge how banking liquidations work.
 
I am asking simple logical questions. If you are not able to answer that puts‌ you on the same level as I.
Perhaps someone with more knowledge will answer.
 
Qenta / opt-in deal was set up by Schiff himself.
See:

Now, Schiff himself said Qenta paid $1.25m for the opt-in accounts and they⁤ have paid $500k so far, so they still owe $750k:
I think it's worth finding out when Qenta is suppose to pay︉ the balance and whether they are witholding payment for some reason?
 
Glad to see I'm not the⁠ only one in this case. And they still haven't contacted me nor reply to my⁤ messages...
 
I don't care if it was set up by Schiff or a 5 year old.‍ I'm pretty sure most people here alraedy knew that.
My question is who is legally⁠ responsible if things go south? Is the liquidator responsible for the liquidation or somebody else?⁤

Also what if the opt out bank went down and not Quenta? Would we blame⁣ the opt outs for making a bad decision? What if both Quenta and the opt⁢ out bank went down? Then we all made bad decisions. Not the liquidator mind you,︀ for loosing the money, but the opt ins for choosing opt in and the opt︁ outs for choosing opt out...
 
Realistically guys. In case quenta is really broke and doesn’t have the funds anymore, do‌ you think they will compensate the OPT-IN clients with the funds if the OPT-OUT clients‍ ? Just a logical reply from maybe someone who had experience.
 
So OCIF is not responsible?

They seized the assets of EPB‍ to protect depositors, but if they lose it somehow they are not responsible?

OCIF is⁠ a scam.
 
What were the terms and conditions clients accepted when they opted-in?

Although there are⁤ a few red flags with Qenta lets not think the worst for the sanity of⁣ those that have funds stuck in this receivership.

P.S Swearing is not gonna be tolerated.⁢ Any further use of the F-word and posts will be deleted and warnings given. I︀ know tempers are high and I don't want to add further to anyone's distress here︁ but littering the thread with F-word's is not on.
 
There were no terms. If you didn't make a transaction to your local‌ bank of everything you owned you became an opt in.

Opt in was the default.‍ They said if you opt in you can take everything out on day one; so⁠ assuming everything went according to plan there was no point to an opt out and⁤ have you risk your money be stuck in transaction limbo.

If I opted out I⁣ would have lost thousands of dollars, because everything I had was in gold.
That's assuming⁢ we haven't lost everything already.
 
Not really sure which T&C they needed to accept.

Yeah let’s not think about the worst⁣ case scenario.

I just wished there would be a better communication from all parties.

Also that @Pschiff disappeared from this thread, shows clearly that he is guilty for many things.⁢
 
He might have also disappeared on advice of his‍ lawyer as he is in the middle of a lawsuit he brought. And no doubt⁠ people would end up asking him stuff he cannot speak on or will incriminate himself.⁤

Looking at his past posts I think he has said enough stuff that will not⁣ be helpful to his case.
 
Yesh that makes sense… anyways if it was really him⁣ who destroyed the bank and destroyed many lifes, I hope he will get punished for⁢ it.
 
As mentioned earlier in‍ the thread but others, opt-ins were an asset-deal with Qenta, so the responsibility lies with⁠ Qenta. Receiver is only responsible for opt-outs.
Since opt-outs are with a government appointed receiver, there is less risk and︁ the chance of recovering (some) money is more likely. If Qenta collapses, opt-ins go to︂ zero.
Of course, bad decisions have been made by many depositors.
1. Martin has sounded︃ the alarm on the bank many many years ago, before any of the bank's wrong︄ doings came to light. Despite this, lots of people in the cult of Schiff still︅ told us Schiff is an upstanding selfless man who only looked after the interests of︆ others and not himself.
2. The "bank" was never insured by the FDIC, which was︇ a huge red flag. Remember when Schiff would brag on his podcast about the moral︈ hazards of FDIC and how his bank was better and all that? Then when it︉ collapsed, it turned into: well depositors knew the bank was not FDIC insured, so they︊ took the risk and sometimes things in life go wrong, too bad.
 
So OCIF is not responsible for agreeing to the deal? Wouldn't that create moral hazard‌ where anyone could just give a cut to OCIF for sharing with them other peoples‍ money?
 
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