Euro Pacific bank is a scam

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Now I understand. You⁤ are too scared to say anything negative about Peter Schiff because you are worried he⁣ will stop posting updates. Has any of his updates gotten you paid in the past⁢ year? He has promised you the money was coming so many times and kept saying︀ his fingers were crossed yet you didn't get anything.

I believe the only reason Peter︁ Schiff posts on here is to try to convince you guys not to sue him.︂ And apparently that is working.
 
What don't you just sue me then? I don't even think you had an account‌ at the bank. You claim that you opened your account to evade taxes and lauder‍ money. If so, your account would have been closed a long time before OCIF shut⁠ the bank down. Plus, if your goal was to evade taxes or launder money, you⁤ would have picked a bank that had far less strict compliance than my.
 
What skin do you have in the game? Other than coming on here looking to cause⁢ problems? I have my view about what happened which includes PSchiff having some accountability, but︀ looking for practical solutions, not spewing vitriol hatred and trying to troll PSchiff. He is︁ the only one to have given us any real updates these past couple of months.︂ There would be a lot more anxious people on here without these updates. We will︃ get our money back, its just a matter of when and how much (after that︄ useless receiver takes his cut for doing nothing), if not the OCIF who promised that︅ as part of liquidation is accountable and Im sure legitimate customers will then all look︆ at a class action lawsuit agains the OCIF. But we have yet to cross that︇ bridge.

So why dont you bugger off and go post on crypto forums? Suggest you︈ have an exit strategy, because crypto is going to zero when CBDCs introduced and they︉ close all the exit/entry points for normal decentralized crypto. They will pump again one final︊ time, then dump so badly after that when they are either nulled out by CBDC︋ or absorbed into the CBDC eco-system. Ever wonder why bitcoin just magically appeared shortly after︌ the 2008 crash without the formal recognition of the founder, only speculation? Its a trial︍ run for CBDCs....
 
Peter, I thank you for taking the time to explain everything that has happened so‌ clearly. I don't think you need to say anything else, obviously some people are here‍ to hate, sadly this forum is not immune to haters either, they are everywhere these⁠ days.

Some of you, specially the haters, should really try to talk to the Commissioner⁤ of the OCIF. You should ask her a number of questions, like:
"Why did she⁣ really close the bank?"
"Why didn't she allow the sale of the bank to Qenta?"⁢
"Why didn't she allow Peter to inject more capital into the bank, and liquidate the︀ bank himself?"
"Why did you have to appoint a Receiver, a Receiver with obviously zero︁ experience?"
"Why did you give a press conference which resulted in the freeze of EPB︂ accounts by the correspondent bank, and why did you say things during the press conference︃ that turned out to be false?"
It's been more than a Year since the bank︄ was closed, customers haven't seen a penny of their money, "is this what you call︅ protecting the interest of the customers, shouldn't that be the priority of the Commissioner?"

Until these questions are answered no one should blame Peter for anything that's happened, no I'm︆ not defending anybody, I'm just not a hater (although as time has gone by I︇ have developed a decent amount of hate towards the OCIF and the Receiver,) it's obvious︈ by now the OCIF has done a terrible job, never thinking about the consequences of︉ her actions, never behaving in a responsible and professional manner.
And I don't want to︊ get into the complete lack of information since the bank was closed, we had to︋ wait a year for the useless Receiver to come out of hibernation just to end︌ up telling us that the funds are still stuck in Novo bank, and if Novo︍ releases the funds then he will send us a liquidation report where supposedly we will︎ learn about his master plan to return the funds, and if we will end up️ getting all our money back after he is done charging his fees.

I hope everything‌ that has happened is made public. Unfortunately we are victims at the mercy of the‍ decisions made by the Commissioner and the Receiver, which have been a total disaster, so⁠ even though there's nothing that we have been able to do up to now, we⁤ have to do our best to protect others by informing them of the risks involved⁣ when you open an account in the jurisdiction of Puerto Rico, FUBAR.

Once again Peter,⁢ thank you for taking the time, at least I hope you get some money from︀ 60 Minutes Australia.
I do wish you could have also filed a lawsuit against the︁ OCIF, even if the chances of winning such a case in a Puerto Rican court︂ would've been very slim, but just the publicity of it would have been well worth︃ it.

Few more weeks and we will know more, I truly hope everybody, opt-in and︄ opt-out customers, get all their money back before this year is over.

I find it︅ insulting that a new guy in this thread has said that all of us who︆ opened an account at EPB did it to launder money and evade taxes. I feel︇ tempted to upload my tax returns so you see that many of us are not︈ so "naive" to think that when you open an offshore account you can just ignore︉ one of the very few things that are certain about this world that we live︊ in, and that is having to pay taxes in your country of residency.
And I︋ would like to add that I've had bank accounts at UBS, Couts&Co, Bank of America,︌ Chase, BBVA, and Barclay's Bank and the KYC that I had to go through to︍ open an account at EPB was arguably one of the strictest I've gone through. And︎ after a few years of having the account at EPB I wanted to add my️ wife to the account in case something ever happened to me, and I almost gave‌ up as EPB kept asking for documentation, I also had to send information of my‍ wife's employer, it was more documentation than any other bank has ever required in order⁠ to just add my wife to an existing account.
At some point I also had⁤ a company account, it took me 2 months to open the account.
I also had⁣ a brokerage account, so those of us who had that type of account know that⁢ we had to submit a CRS form before being able to start trading, and that's︀ just a fact.
I know for sure there are many other banks in the world︁ that will not hesitate to open an account with a fraction of the documents, and︂ let's not talk about all the EMIs where you can currently open an account, some︃ without even sending a copy of your passport. And of course let's not get into︄ all the exchanges where you can hide your crypto, a perfect paradise for scammers and︅ all kinds of criminals.
So to come here and say that EPB was this and︆ that when it came to opening an account is just FALSE.

Final words, if things︇ don't get solved, meaning if the OCIF and the Receiver keep delaying things without having︈ a proper reason beyond their control, I will happily join other customers to try to︉ go after OCIF, as far as I'm concerned we are where we are because of︊ the actions and irresponsible conduct of OCIF, in particular the Commissioner Natalia Zequeira Diaz.
And even though I'm sure she was pressured by the J5 to close the bank, there︋ is no doubt in my mind that she could have easily allowed Peter to liquidate︌ the bank without the need of appointing a Receiver, and without giving a press conference︍ full of innuendos and false accusations that resulted in the freeze by Novo bank. And︎ here we are still paying the price, I hope you are listening Natalia Zequeira Diaz,️ you should apologize and resign immediately!! You're to blame for everything that's happened!! What you‌ throw into the fire becomes fuel for the fire, that's exactly what you've done stupid‍ girl!

All that I've done during these months is work to take care of my⁠ family, no holidays, no going to the movies or going out for dinner, nothing whatsoever,⁤ but I don't regret banking at EuroPacific Bank, the bank was great, customer service was⁣ excellent, the bank offered a very wide selection of investments, precious metals accounts, mutual funds,⁢ multi currency accounts, prepaid cards, and a brokerage account linked to Interactive Brokers, what else︀ would you want from a bank? The bank had everything, it was perfect! And a︁ full-reserve bank!
Unfortunately I never anticipated that a Regulator would work against the customers. I've︂ had accounts with different banks that ended up getting closed and in all those cases︃ the Regulator made sure that the failed bank was sold to a more solid institution,︄ I never lost access to my money, not even for 1 minute.

And I find︅ it ludicrous to suggest that EPB should've been making sure that customers were paying their︆ taxes back home, WTF?, No bank does that. You are the only one responsible for︇ paying your taxes, and if you don't want to pay taxes that's fine with me,︈ just move to Dubai or any other jurisdiction where you can legally avoid paying taxes.︉

I hope at some point we can all direct our hate towards the OCIF and︊ if needed take legal action. I'm sure Peter will be more than willing to help︋ us.
Hopefully we will get all our money back during the next months and this︌ ordeal will stay as another lesson, that's life, an eternal classroom.
My main worry is︍ Novo bank, who knows what they've done with the money, but if Novo releases the︎ fund this battle will be over very soon.

And to all the haters, specially those️ that don't even have an account, go waste your time in Twitter, that's the perfect‌ place for you to waste your life hating 24/7.
 
Radko and Spartan, you are thanking the person that scammed you out of your money.‌ You have some sort of emotional attachment to Peter Schiff that is preventing you from‍ seeing the truth. He is the reason the bank failed.

Peter blamed it on his⁠ political views but in reality the reason is because he used customer money for operating⁤ expenses and it was easy for criminals and tax cheats to open accounts. That doesn't⁣ mean everyone that had an account was a criminal or tax cheat, it just means⁢ several were.

Do you really believe the OCIF is gonna shutdown his bank because of︀ his political stance? That is just a convenient excuse. It's the same excuse Peter used︁ when his father was thrown in prison...he's a "political prisoner."
 
This is the way! 😎
@Radko knows how to bank!

Thank you for︄ sharing!

The attack vector is to︅ sue her OUTSIDE of her jurisdiction! As long as she and the receiver can use︆ "state coffers/taxpayers' money" to defend themselves, nothing will happen and they won't feel or be︇ bothered with a thing.

Speak to a litigator familiar with the style of Joe Jamail.︈
 
Thanks. Yes the Commissioner obviously had a reason for the action that she took. I have︍ a good idea what it is, but I'm not allowed to disparage OCIF. I gave︎ up that right as I was told it would result in customers getting their money️ back quicker. What you wrote about the bank'a compliance is great. Would you be willing‌ to put that in an affidavit that I can use for my lawsuit in Australia.‍ It would be very helpful. If so, email [email protected]
 
Sure Peter, I'll be happy to help. I'll send an email to that email address.︀
 
Using customer money for operating expenses was not a reason given by OCIF for shutting︃ down the bank. He was not mentioned once after the bank's audit or once in︄ the agreement to liquidate the bank. You are just a liar making stuff up because︅ you have some kind of grudge against me. You should be banned from this board.︆
 
Please everybody: neither any laments nor accusations bring us forth.

My current strategy after writing‌ many mails around…:
I am denouncing the person, who recommended clearly to me EPB, attempting‍ a fraud - hoping he can fully be identified.

I am curious about lawyers and⁠ I will support you somehow. Maybe we can work together in an honest way after⁤ finding an authentic lawyer:
I cannot take the risk of losing any more money as⁣ a nice part of my net worth has been taken so far.
Many others are⁢ in similar and worse situations. I feel with you.

Could everybody who could easily afford︀ such legal actions help us, e.g. the biggest losers as me pay only in case︁ of success? I would definitely share 10-30% of my potential funds once they are returned︂ (full??).

@Pschiff you are superrich: Why do you spend time here after losing basically nothing?︃ Are you really interested in helping us? You never answered our questions concerning the lawyer‘s︄ names etc. We just read your redundant words except from one single file you once︅ sent.
Can you be truly kind and really philanthropic while telling you lost 25mio -︆ a ridiculous part of your net worth, while others are losing their homes?
I hate︇ making mistakes, but I love correcting them.
 
Did you send your email yet? If so we haven't‍ received it.

$25 million in hardly an insignificant part of my net worth. I'm sure I lost a︉ larger part of my net worth than the vast majority of bank customers. As i've︊ written there is nothing I can do. I have as much control over the bank︋ as any one of you on this board. As I learn anything I let everyone︌ know.
 
ATTENTION ALL OPT-OUT CUSTOMERS.

For those of you interested in working together to protect our‌ interests we need to discuss matters offline for legal reasons.

You can contact me at:‍ [email protected]

I hope this works for all those interested. I have a few more details⁠ to share but I can't say them here.
 
We have to come together and fight these‍ people. We need to have a bit of trust in each other and form a⁠ common goal to ensure the safe return of our funds.

All of us being passive⁤ individuals waiting for others to do something isn't going to work .
 
Things appear to be more happening behind the scenes at the moment - as always‌ - rather than transparency as it should be.

If opt-out customers want to protect their‍ interests they are going to have to be more proactive.
 
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