Dummy website redirection for online payments

[user9823671]

Crossing your fingers.

If a competitor wants to see what you are doing, they just‌ have to purchase something from you and see that the receipt contains a different business‍ name and report that to stripe then refund on what they purchased. They is no⁠ way against that (aoart from backup false company accounts to route through when one goes⁤ down)

 

[nicotine]

Can anyone tell⁠ me how to find a provider in the store? I have several competitive stores that⁤ show the provider (they either write about it themselves, or the payment is made from⁣ the provider's page), I foundCURO Payments and paydollar .
And at some stores it is⁢ not visible which provider they use. How can this be found out? thanks

If a︀ "bad customer" buys the goods and receives a statement on the card with a different︁ company name. How can he complain to the provider if he does not know his︂ name?

 

[fabian9000]

You are on the right track, at least I think so.

I am also looking‌ for similar solution, and beside website cloaking, it would be ideal to cloak email from‍ the bank. Customers and bad customers should never see any background redirections from original website⁠ through legal website to payment processor. They should only receive confirmation on the email from⁤ your own "original" webstore. That email should be generated upon receiving email from original webstore⁣ (storefront) and payment processor.

It all sounds very simple on the paper, but making it⁢ so, I think it's hella difficult.

 

[adiljv]

I use a method on my Iptv website, after an order I send a Paypal‌ link to my customers to pay without having to go through api.

 

[aage]

You buy the︀ product, file a dispute with your card company or the bank and you will get︁ that information in 99% of all cases. You can also ask your bank who is︂ it that has charged your card.

 

[fabian9000]

But what happens if customers only option for opening dispute is to go to their bank⁠ or open dispute with their bank via online system. I think that drastically reduces chances⁤ of opening dispute.

 

[adiljv]

Can you give the website of services affering Cloaking ?

Thanks

 

[James2774]

What?
That’s how everyone disputes, just⁠ go online it’s incredibly easy.

 

[Spinat]

Still if your customer or even a competitor will report what they bought‍ and it is against PP policy you get troubles or your account closed!

 

[Milken]

@nicotine If you don't mind laborious work, Purchase a Offline Payment module/plugin and use a‌ Virtual Terminal to process orders. I used this method a while back when i first‍ got started to avoid using crap setup's with slow payout, You need cash-flow always essentially.⁠ Setup cost is tiny.

Expect foul play from competitors, i can confirm that does happen.⁤ Blackmail does happen often to, when it comes through - redirect it.

Cloaking is a⁣ more sophisticated option but you would need to consult a payment engineer/developer - again all⁢ depends on what you want to commit in terms of budget.

Good Luck. You find︀ anybody good let me know also 😉

 

[fabian9000]

Where can one get virtual terminal to accept orders? I think it's even harder to‌ obtain VT then it's to obtain regular payment gateway like stripe or similar.

 

[Milken]

@fabian9000 Many PSP provide it, worldpay would be one. expect solid compliance on application -‌ i already had a established business which i used for the application. Again that will‍ only get so far, the manual labor is quite intense.

3 to 5% of the⁠ orders would need chasing up with no funds when you try and take payment.

If you can cloak do it and save yourself the man hours

 

[exprtadvisrdev]

Get a Braintree account with the white label business, ask them to allow you to‌ send custom descriptors (the hard part) and then send the custom descriptor to Braintree's API‍ so what the end user will see in the receipt is the name of the⁠ black label store, that way is less obvious the redirection since everything was done in⁤ the backend and the user never knows that he/she was charged with another company

I know is possible since I have configured it for some stores (but they did it⁣ because they wanted to handle everything with just one account). But this is not bullet⁢ proof either, because if your competition ask the bank to start a dispute, Braintree will︀ need to give the data and your account could be closed too.

I think there︁ is no way to have the perfect solution if your competition want you out.

Also, Stripe could have the same functionality but since you said it was locked I don't︂ think you will continue with them.

 

[Milken]

What do you charge︄ to do the configuration with BT

 

[exprtadvisrdev]

It depends on lot of things (stack used, server, etc). Send me a PM if‌ you want, if I'm not wrong I can't publish contact information

 

[nicotine]

For me, the ideal situation is if the payment gateway sees my real business and‌ safely accepts my white website with understanding.

I have already made a thousand payments over‍ the past year on 7 stripe accounts and I did not have charge from the⁠ clients, because I try to do business well (my business is selling sarms and nootropics)⁤

Is it possible to negotiate honestly with a payment gateway? for me it's a big⁣ pain in the a*s right now.

 

[nicotine]

I have never encountered︄ a charge yet. But as far as I know, if you get a charge and︅ do not dispute it, then this goes smoothly. This is not true?

 

[nicotine]

Can I get information on this issue in the mentor group in this forum?

 

[manas23]

I need this same exact method. My competitor uses an amazing setup for this. Is‌ there anyone with an information about this?

 

[exprtadvisrdev]

It depends on‍ what you want to do and the tools you have available