Bulgaria or Cyprus for company and residency?

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And what would you do if (as in your case here) Spain says that we‌ do not recognize that you live in Bulgaria and therefore you must pay tax in‍ Spain? Then you would have to pay tax both in Bulgaria and in Spain.

exactly my⁣ point!
 
It's fixed to the Deutsche Mark. Which obviously became the Euro. I⁤ see this remark all the time; it's the main argument used by politicians, pro-European clowns⁣ etc., etc as it works, people can just about grasp this concept "Ah, we are⁢ already pegged to the Euro, how bad can it be"

Most people don't understand that︀ Bulgaria has a currency board that limits the amount of money one can have based︁ on foreign currency reserves. Thus, there's a hard limit on how much debt the government︂ can accrue, which is why Bulgaria has the lowest debt/GDP ratio in Europe.

Once the︃ Euro comes in, those controls are gone, so the government can borrow money in vast︄ quantities, and they will; government spending will skyrocket.

None of that money will translate into︅ productivity, leading to more inflation, and eventually, the debt will become unsustainable. Then you get︆ a Greece, Irish, Spanish, or Portuguese bailout.

It's unsurprising that politicians are the biggest proponents︇ of the Euro, as it will make them rich while the average Bulgarian gets poorer.︈

I can't believe the court said no to a referendum despite 400k signatures I hope︉ Bulgarians wake up; they will lose the two most important aspects of control - money︊ supply and interest rates. The public needs to get these clowns out of office and︋ get a statesman in there who wants Bulgaria to do well, which it can certainly︌ do with its own currency and strategic interests, not be some EU vassal.
 
As long as you stay under 183 days, its fine. Even⁤ if you stay more than that, it's highly unlikely that the even know that you⁣ are in Spain. How could you possibly attract the attention of the Spanish government in⁢ the first place? The entire country is full of tourists all year around.
 
I don't know the details but at the end national goverments decide how much debt‌ they make - either with Lev or Euro. But I understand your mistrust in Goverment‍ when they have access to more debts. Lets hope Bulgaria chooses the best way for⁠ their people.

I think thats true for most countries in the world. Unfortunately.
 
No, you don't get it. The currency board peg is backed by⁣ currency reserves, which limit the amount of levs in circulation and control inflation. There is⁢ a limit on how much debt the government can have. Do you think Bulgaria has︀ a low debt-to-GDP ratio through magic and honest politicians? No, it's due to the currency︁ board working as intended.

Once the euro comes, that control is gone. That is precisely︂ what happened to Greece. The 'leaders' took out massive loans from German and Dutch banks︃ and stole the money, leaving the country with an unsustainable debt.
 
Let me︀ repeat. These are not problems bound to Euro. If Bulgarian goverments will "steal the money"︁ as you write for Greece than this is a national reason. If they wanted -︂ even with Euro - they could come up with a limitation of debts. It depends︃ on their own national politics. Estonia has the lowest debt to GDP in the EU.︄ And they have the Euro.

Its the same with the US who had the Dollar︅ backed by Gold. After they removed this limit they started printing money. But these are︆ decisions the Goverments make.
 
I don't think you︀ understand how the Eurozone works. Either that, or you're being obtuse. If you think some︁ "limitation of debts" accounting rule is going to work, then you live in a parallel︂ world where politicians don't rob the country blind.

When you enter the Eurozone, the ECB︃ produces the currency and decides how much to circulate, so the Bulgarian government has lost︄ control of inflation. Interest rates can be locally controlled with the lev. Under the Euro,︅ interest rates tend to parity throughout the Eurozone. There will be no control, and banks︆ will lend freely as they know the ECB will bail them out. The currency board︇ limits these things, when you remove that, it's open season. The problems I describe are︈ bound to the Euro. Because in the current setup - they can't really happen.

You don't even need to understand the workings of it all. Just look at who is︉ pushing the Euro. Are they people with a track record of improving the lot of︊ ordinary working people? Or?
 
Under Cyprus law there is no set procedure for the distribution of dividends. This︉ is regulated by the Articles of Association of each company, and guidance also derives from︊ common law. A company can declare and distribute interim and final dividends. While interim dividends︋ are declared and approved by the board of directors out of the profits of the︌ company, final dividends are declared at general meetings and no final dividend shall exceed the︍ amount recommended by the directors. The interim dividends can be declared at any point and︎ without any restriction, as long as this complies with the said company's Articles of Association.️ The only restriction is that dividend distribution must be from the profits.
 
And what determines profits? Profits from example the past month?

I guess in Cyprus,︂ you could also take a shareholder loan with the 9% benefit in kind and then︃ clear it against dividends on the following year.
 
If its︄ OK for you I would suggest to leave it at that and return to topic.︅ I made my point clear, so did you. But this topic is about Cyprus vs︆ Bulgaria for company formation and residency and all I added was that debt level in︇ Bulgaria is much lower compared to Cyprus which I consider a Pro as high dept︈ might lead to tax increases. Thats all.

Whether Bulgaria will implement Euro and if so︉ whether it will turn out good or bad for Bulgarian people / economy is hypothetical︊ and actually doesn't even matter for most of us here as we can still move︋ elsewhere if it impacts us negatively
 
Thanks for sharing! Are you still in Bulgaria? Still happy? I'm considering Bulgaria /︄ Cyprus.
 
May I ask in which wonderful paradise of‍ state you are living and doing business in?
 
This is not regulated under Cyprus law - it is regulated by the‌ Articles of Association of each company - therefore if there is no restriction in the‍ Articles dividends can be declared at any point in the year and as many times,⁠ save for the restriction that it has to be from the profits.
 
Thank you, very informative and good to know. But hyou can't just take out dividend⁣ replacing a monthly salary I believe. So restricting it to 4 times a year may⁢ be the best or what do you think ?
 
Thanks. I did not expect anything better than‌ this actually but wanted to be fair and give it a try.

@Marshal My post‍ was irony in the first place as all he "contributed" was shithole, shithole, shithole without⁠ providing anything better from own experience either. So I asked which wonderful paradise he chose.⁤ Of course you are right and there is no one place for everybody.
 
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