BOI reporting for US LLCs (at least) temporarily suspended

[Forester]

An interesting reading has arrived to my mailbox: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/h...ends-enforcement-fincen-reporting-requirement.
In short, a TX court judgement forced FINCEN to publish an alert sounding “In light of a recent federal court order, reporting companies are not currently required to file beneficial ownership information with FinCEN and are not subject to liability if they fail to do so while the order remains in force. However, reporting companies may continue to voluntarily submit beneficial ownership information reports“ (https://fincen.gov/boi ”“ the Alert: Impact of Ongoing Litigation ”“ Deadline Stay ”“ Voluntary Submission Only).
🙂 🙂 🙂

The corresponding judgement (a preliminary injunction, to be exact) can be reached here https://www.nfib.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/TX-Top-Cop-Shop-Amended-Opinion-12-05-2024.pdf.

(It all happened almost a week ago; yet as I do not have a US LLC currently, I am not following this too closely. But I have not noticed it discussed here.)

Last edited: Dec 10, 2024
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[Belfort]

I submitted it, unfortunately.

 

[JackAlabama]

great the US is doing this.︃ There is hope in the world 😉

 

[churumbelo]

So did I.

 

[CharlieHarper]

Gotta love the Americans for standing up to their government, a will that has been completely crushed in Europe. On completely random note, how long before all these regulations crush Europe into a shell of its past...

• 15 years ago, the size of the European economy was 10% larger than that of the US, however, by 2022 it was 23% smaller. The GDP of the European Union (including UK before Brexit) has grown in this period by 21% (measured in dollars), compared to 72% for the US and 290% for China.

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Source: https://www.santander.com/en/press-...=15 years ago, the size,US and 290% for China.

 

[lagloriacubana]

Gotta love the Americans for standing up to their government, a will that has been‌ completely crushed in Europe. On completely random note, how long before all these regulations crush‍ Europe into a shell of its past...

Source: https://www.santander.com/en/press-...=15 years ago, the size,US and 290% for China.

 

[Simon4466]

More or less the same thing happened⁤ to the UBO register in Europe, although required to file it is not public until⁣ the Luxembourg court case is settled AFAIK

 

[CharlieHarper]

Simon4466 said:
More or less the same thing happened to the UBO register in Europe, although required to file it is not public until the Luxembourg court case is settled AFAIK
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Not really. It is very visible in the country I am a national of - including all data you can imagine such as taxes, salaries, debts etc. etc.

BOI Data was never meant to be public but only for certain cases

In accordance with the Corporate Transparency Act, FinCEN may permit access to beneficial ownership information to:

• Federal agencies engaged in national security, intelligence, or law enforcement activity;
• State, local, and Tribal law enforcement agencies with court authorization;
• Officials at the Department of the Treasury;
• Foreign law enforcement agencies, judges, prosecutors, and other authorities that submit a request through a U.S. Federal agency to obtain beneficial ownership information for authorized activities related to national security, intelligence, and law enforcement;
• Financial institutions with customer due diligence requirements under applicable law (in order to facilitate compliance with those requirements); and
• Federal functional regulators or other appropriate regulatory agencies that supervise or assess financial institutions with access to beneficial ownership information (in order to supervise such financial institutions' compliance with customer due diligence requirements).

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In Europe they are trying to take Norwegian/Nordic approach of giving out all information to public which is extremely stupid and puts a target on everyone's backs. So in any case in EU nothing has changed in terms of giving the data to government - just being posted for everyone to see without restriction. In US they are attempting to stop such databases being made in first place.

Such Databases with complete transparency would have been wet dreams of all dictators and communists in past... and maybe future?

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[lagloriacubana]

Not really. It is very visible in the country I am⁠ a national of - including all data you can imagine such as taxes, salaries, debts⁤ etc. etc.

BOI Data was never meant to be public but only for certain cases⁣

In Europe︆ they are trying to take Norwegian/Nordic approach of giving out all information to public which︇ is extremely stupid and puts a target on everyone's backs. So in any case in︈ EU nothing has changed in terms of giving the data to government - just being︉ posted for everyone to see without restriction. In US they are attempting to stop such︊ databases being made in first place.

Such Databases with complete transparency would have been wet︋ dreams of all dictators and communists in past... and maybe future?

 

[Clank]

Time to close my US LLC and open a new one.

 

[DollarDog]

Seems just a temporary thing for now, isn't it?

 

[CharlieHarper]

DollarDog said:
Seems just a temporary thing for now, isn't it?
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Yes. I guess in the end it will be US Supreme Court which will decide.

 

[lagloriacubana]

Yes. I guess in the end it will be US Supreme Court which will decide.

 

[CharlieHarper]

Honestly this whole BOI/UBO nonsense is to enforce wealth taxes, and the fact that Kamala was making it as one of the policy issues along with Pocahontas Warren, I have some hope it might not pass.

 

[lagloriacubana]

Honestly this whole BOI/UBO nonsense is to enforce wealth taxes, and the fact that Kamala‌ was making it as one of the policy issues along with Pocahontas Warren, I have‍ some hope it might not pass.

 

[JackAlabama]

looks like more and⁠ more folks are fed up with this communist bs. So theres chance it wont pass.⁤

 

[DollarDog]

Spoke with the agent, they confirmed this "it is no longer mandatory. You may choose‌ to submit if you'd like, in case the ban is appealed, but you are not‍ currently required to."

 

[marioIT]

yeah there are more libertarians and‍ people into classical liberalism in the new trump presidency when compared to his past one.⁠ Very curious to see how things will evolve. But always remember you only have one⁤ life (at a time at least) and don't put your life decision in their hands.⁣

 

[forlac]

Does this also apply for aliens who owns a LLC and never have reported yet?‌ I wonder if they find some dodgy holes to trick those foreigners into some debts...?‍

 

[LosAngeles]

Hello,
Does this mean that the new company is also not required to fill out‌ the BOIR? Or only apply to old ones?